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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:42 PM
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Anyone watching the CBC coverage of the Caledonia blockade?
WOW...

I have to admit, I'm on the side of the native people!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:55 PM
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1. what's happening?
what are they blockading? tell me more
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:07 PM
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2. check it:
The natives are protesting a developer's plan to build 250 luxury homes on a 40-hectare site in Caledonia, a community of 10,000 south of Hamilton.

http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/story/tor-caledonia060516.html
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:39 PM
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3. Caledonia Protest!
Have to admit I'm on the Native side, too. They are my mother's Canadian relatives.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:48 PM
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4. All hell breaking loose?
From: "Orakwa International Indigenous Ent." <orakwa@paulcomm.ca>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:33:19 -0400
To: ActionCanadaNetwork <actcan@web.net>
Subject: Six Nations: All hell has broken loose! Help right now!

HELP SIX NATIONS. OPP CONDONE MOB RULE. “ALL HELL AND SHIT HAS BROKEN LOOSE”. YOUR HELP IS URGENTLY NEEDED RIGHT NOW!

1:00 Monday. May 22, 2006. Day 83 of the land reclamation. In a gesture of goodwill, Six nations people took down the barricade on Argyle Street in front of the Caledonia at 6:00 am this morning. Yesterday the Caledonians blocked the road for 6 buses of supporters from Toronto. They also blocked ambulances from going to the hospital. One man died alone because they did not let him family go to his bedside. A car with a reporter and some women from Six nations paper was surrounded by Caledonian men and women. They smashed the windows. The Ontario Provincial Police stood around shoulder to shoulder without moving, just watching, allowing the hooliganism to go on. “We are looking after it,” they told the Six Nations people. When Six Nations people went to help the people who were being attacked, they were surrounded by more Caledonians, who shoved and hit them and accused the Indigenous people of instigating the violence. When the woman was hit, the Six Nations men jumped in and about three or four big fights broke out. The OPP continued to allow these Caledonian hoodlums to keep up their attack..

The Six Nations have put up the barricade again.

There is a large police presence. But just standing there. They are not stopping the Caledonia people from coming in. Everytime we try to soften things up and deal with people on the expectation they will behave in a civilized way, look at what happens.

This is public misbehaviour which is a direct result of the way the issues are handled by the Canadian government and the Canadian press. They do not present the legitimate basis of the Six Nations people’s complaints. They make it look like we are the law breakers. They are wrong in letting the public no know of our legitimate claims. The blame for this lies squarely on the shoulders of the public officials in the way they are presenting this whole issuer.

EVERYBODY DO SOMETHING.

Try the Prime Minister, the police, the UN, anyone you can think of who may take responsibility for law and order in Ontario.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:49 PM
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5. Riot cops coming in, according to e-mail report
From: "Orakwa International Indigenous Ent." <orakwa@paulcomm.ca>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:30:18 -0400
To: ActionCanadaNetwork <actcan@web.net>
Subject: 6 NATIONS. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN. RIOT COPS COMING IN.

7:25. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO. Get the word out. Media blackout. All kinds of shit is happening. The Riot Cops are coming in. It’s not as benign as they make it sound on the radio. They’re pepper spraying and beating up everybody.

JUST MY PREDICTION

7:05 pm. According to my crystal ball, this is what’s going to happen. The Caledonians, who are mostly not Caledonians, and their ringleader definitely is not, will continue to riot at the end of Argyle street near the Six nations barricade. More and more will come from Hamilton and other towns and cities around and maybe from even further away, like Ottawa. The ringleader and his shorthaired sidekicks are probably bankrolled by Indian Affairs or CSIS or RCMP or dirty tricks squad. As more and more non-natives arrive, the ringleaders will rev them up with some carefully scripted racial slurs and slogans that will rouse them up, “Let’s go kill the Indians”. Then fights will break out amongst them. Because some do not really want to kill the Indians. Then the instigators will start fights going between them. More cops will come in. Then the ringleader will turn the crowd against the cops for not letting them get by to get at the Indians. Then rocks and bricks will start flying at the cops. Then more cops will come in and more bricks will fly hurting maybe a dozen cops. That’s when the people demand that the army come in and restore order.

How do I know this? Chateauguay 1990!

Several contacts informed us that most of the rioters are not Caledonians. They are outsiders. They’re there on “business”.


PLAN II – IS THE ARMY IS GOING TO ARRIVE?

4:10 pm. Why would the police be instigating rioters? Because Canada wants to bring in the army. The army has been sitting in the wings for months now. They are in the middle of a recruiting campaign. They’re trying to make it look like they have a valuable role to play, keeping the peace in Canada. We all know that the Six Nation-Caledonia peace was broken in the first place by sending in the armed forces. Instead of doing the honorable thing, putting their documents on the table, sitting down and talking like adults, the Canadian authorities came on with a show of force. They mislead people in Caledonia and made them feel insecure. They conducted a campaign designed to make it look like everything was the fault of the Indians. Though it is now a month since the aborted raid on Six Nations, they still haven’t admitted publicly that the Six Nations people occupying the construction site are occupying our own land.

They’re following the old colonial plan. Britain has always made high minded statements about how their Indians are under their benevolent protection. Meanwhile they let their abused lower classes steal from us. They subsidize their trips over here to make it easier for them to do this. They kept them in miserable living conditions at home to make them want to leave. This is the same old, same old. Canada inherited the British system and Canada too made an underclass. Then it incited this underclass to attack the “Indians”. This will throw up a smokescreen and they are going to try to make us look satisfied when peace is restored instead of restoring the land they stolen.

It is really disappointing to see this kind of subversive tactic in the 21st century. Violence could so easily have been averted with a few upstanding statements by Canadian political leaders.

This time one thing is different. They haven’t been able to keep their secret from the Canadian public and the world. They are at least beginning to know what’s going on. People won’t stand for it.

Canada, it’s not too late to turn things around. The trip of even only 1000 miles starts with the first step. A few days ago it looked as if Canada had seen the road and was ready to start down a new direction. It’s still not too late to try.

Canadians, please ask your government to call off its undercover riot instigators with their skinheads and get back to the table to talk.

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“Bread and Cheese Day” ruined. Queen Vicki must be rolling in her grave. She used to say, “We are not amused”. All hydro is out around there. Tyendinaga has railroad blocked again. At least 3 bridges are blocked out west. All support is important. Near and far. Isn’t there any kind of way to resolve this peacefully? Do dealings with Canada always have to degenerate into mob rule? Why do they let these mobs do this to us?

The greatest weapon we have is the truth. That’s what they’re fearful of.

ARE CHATEAUGUAY AND LASALLE ATTACKS ON MOHAWKS IN 1990 BEING SET UP BY SOMEONE?

3:20 pm. Update: It is escalating. There are many police there. One of the chiefs went out to offer cedar and put down his cane and tried to bring peace. He got hit in the head. They were given until 2:30 BY THE opp to move from the barricades. They refused. That’s when the road was dug up.

The Indians are behaving peacefully. They want to stop the trespasser from coming over and hurting them. The’re threatening to kill the Indians.

UPDATE. Rioting broke out today after the Six Nations opened Argyle Road. Caledonians rushed them. Smashed cards. Attacked people. In order to protect themselves, the Six Nations got a payloader and startedto dig up the road. The OPP asked them to stop so they could clear the trespassing Caledonian rioters.

Six Nations decided to give them a chance and held off on the trench they digging across the road. The Caledonians rushed them. The police started pepper spraying guess who? Not the trespassing rioters, but the Indians. This was more than a violation of their word. So the Six Nations resumed digging the trench.

We’re giving you these details because the medial will automatically presume that we are at fault. The CBC is still saying that we have a “purported” land claim as if it hasn’t had time since February 28 to do some research for itself that our claims are all set out in formal document backed by archival evidence.

The Caledonians rushed the barricades. The cops actually pepper sprayed the Indigenous people. Several Caledonians were hurt in fights between themselves. Shades of Chateuguay. Rioting went on night after night until the army came it. That’s what appears to be instigated here. More cops coming from Orillia.


How much do you want to bet that only one or two token charges will be laid against the Caledonian trespassers.

S.O.S. RIOTS SPARKED AT SIX NATIONS BY DAVID PETERSON’S “DOUBLE DEALING”

May 22, 2006: Six Nations

3:05 pm. All kinds police. Caledonial rushed the barricade. Our people went after them. Cops pepper sprayed. We dug up the road. Cops asked for more time. More cops coming in from Orrilia.

Mohawk “Whiskey Trench” at Caledonia. A police set up??

Canada doesn’t really want this land issue settled. They’re trying to find a way to get police in there to use force to put an end to this problem Canada has.

People in the communities. Get on your local media and get this up to the minute news. Not 5 days from now. By then everybody might be dead. We don’t want blood shed.

Punched one of chiefs in the head. It was all orchestrated. We can tell. These white people can be controlled. OPP have training in this. They can foresee this and stop it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:56 PM
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6. Meanwhile, in the southwest direction of Turtle Island
The Return of the Native
By Richard Rodriguez

SAN FRANCISCO - The United States today is facing the return of the native. In the American scheme of things, the Indian had disappeared from history - reluctantly, sadly, tragically, he was eliminated. He had gone into retreat in our memories.

Suddenly, spilling out from over our southern horizon are people who were supposed to no longer exist.

The discomfiting thought occurs to us that history has not ended. That, instead, we are in the middle of another turn of the wheel our words can't describe. We are facing a future we can't name. So we have decided to call these immigrants "Hispanics" in reference to the Spanish king who once ruled Mexico and the American Southwest. But most of these faces that are coming toward us are people of mixed blood - mestizos.

Clearly the imprint of the Indian is on their faces...

(snip)

Truly, in America today, the past and the future are meeting each other. It is at this border of time that the United States now plans to put tanks and soldiers, and there is talk of a wall.

(snip)

...rest of the story at The Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/return-of-the-native-ame_b_21294.html

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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:57 PM
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7. saw a bit this morning on CBC..it's pretty heated
and shameful...haven't been following the story, but my guess
is, the natives have been taken advantage of again
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:03 PM
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8. Broken Treaty Score
Invading colonial imperialists: 386 in the USA

Red Nations: 0

You put Canada, the US, and Mexico together, and the score is newcomers 1200 broken or violated treaties with the Red Nations, and Red Nations, I do believe, still 0 or damn close to it. The record is as consistent as it is ugly and incomprehensible.

There's a whole hell of a lot of crappy karma wrapped up in all those broken treaties. Just saying.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:06 PM
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10. I agree n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:05 PM
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9. Here's how the CBC online news site is covering it:
Tensions flare as Caledonia standoff continues

A fragile calm has settled in but a tense standoff continues in Caledonia, Ont., hours after aboriginal protesters and non-native residents traded punches and insults.

Ontario Provincial Police officers have separated the two sides, lining up in a pair of columns to keep them apart on Highway 6, the main road running through the southern Ontario town.

Local officials were to hold an emergency meeting to discuss the situation.

more

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/05/22/caledonia-blockade.html
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