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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:22 AM
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Eavesdropping, Gagging, and the Constitution- by Ray McGovern
Eavesdropping, Gagging, and the Constitution
By Ray McGovern
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Wednesday 24 May 2006

(excerpt)
Good News and Bad News

The good news is that many officials still serving in the national security parts of our government have found ways to expose crimes like kidnapping "suspected terrorists," torturing them or "rendering" them to other countries to be tortured, holding them incommunicado without the required notice to the Red Cross, warrantless eavesdropping.... The list goes on.

The bad news is that administration officials and those in Congress who do their bidding seem determined to intimidate those like Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) from exercising our First Amendment rights to speak out against that which we should speak out against: What the Nuremberg Tribunal called "the supreme international crime" of initiating a war of aggression. Especially considering that, as Nuremberg stressed, such a war contains the "accumulated evil of the whole." Just like the evils mentioned above, which are still going on.

It is abundantly clear that the George W. Bush administration - enjoying abroad "sole-remaining-superpower" status, and at home effective control of all three formerly independent branches of government - believes it has carte blanche to continue these abuses under the rubric of the "Long War" on terror. So, rather than addressing these abuses, the executive branch and its courtiers in Congress have been fixated on stemming the flow of revelations to the press.

much more at:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052406Z.shtml
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:30 AM
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1. Excellent read, thanks for posting!
The bush cabal has trashed the Constitution, trashed international law, thrown away the essential elements of democracy, imo.
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Stalwart Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:48 AM
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2. Make Truth our National Language
Elevate those who speak it, ridicule and expose those that can't, won't or don't.

As truth stands up, lies stand down.

Those that speak the language of truth fluently are the super heroes of society.

The next Superman Sequel should present this champion of Truth, Justice and the American Way in a role reversal where the alter ego news reporter is foremost, not just a prop, and his physical powers to leap tall buildings are a supporting element to the story.

Ray is a Super Hero.



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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:55 AM
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3. I got chills reading this, much like the horror I experienced
years ago in college, when I learned about The Final Solution. I read the post on The Goebbels (sp?) yesterday which was prompted by a PBS special, and what McGovern has to say is so reminiscent of that era in human history. May he and those few remaining souls keep on recognizing and calling evil for what it is:Evil. Plain and simple and horrifying and still incomprehensible, the later characteristic responsible for why many refuse to recognize it.



What the Nuremberg Tribunal called "the supreme international crime" of initiating a war of aggression. Especially considering that, as Nuremberg stressed, such a war contains the "accumulated evil of the whole."

:kick: and R! and thank you so much kpete!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:57 AM
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4. Kick for McGovern and kpete and Truth. ....n/t
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:22 PM
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7. Thanks
WiseButAngrySara

and, yes, I am still angry-kpete

Peace!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:58 AM
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5. And one more.... ....n/t
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:20 PM
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6. A kick for Ray McGovern, a true patriot
:patriot:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:25 PM
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8. K & R
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 06:28 PM
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9. K&R
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