Who do YOU think is the REAL power behind the throne?

Dick Cheney?

John Negroponte?

Donald Rumsfeld?

Someone else?

Combination?

in the middle of the web of corruption really is, or if it's a group. What we do know is that all the men you listed are just the hired help, the errand boys, the servants to do their bidding.

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Cheney may have been part of it but he is so ill now that he is not taking an active role in pulling strings.
Rumsfeld is evil but he is still just a front man. Negroponte is pure evil, worse than Rumsfeld but still not active in the actual planning. He gets involved in details on how to implement what the power brokers want. Rumsfeld is not smart enough for that role.
I think the power brokers are very much behind the scenes. I couldn't identify them.

of powerful and wealthy people who may never be brought before daylight for us to see. However, I also believe many of these men come from Texas.

industrialists (brought in by Poppy in the 70s) - secretive Dutch clan - British royals (a figure acting on their behalf) - a Pakistani partner of UAE - sultan of Brunei - to name a few

One can almost hear Poppy Bush pitching the benefits of joining the group to certain Chinese generals just as his daddy explained years before to the House of Saud the importance of having friends with a big stick like the US government. Smirky the Lesser however must be chaperoned and most of the details are most certainly left to others.

This century will see the rise of the corporations. Nation-states have been acquired by powerful business interests and their new role is security and acquisitions.

and guaranteed. It certainly didn't happen in a vacuum.

I swear, it's a Bechtel-Carlyle-GE-Baywatch world...

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• Texas/Oklahoma "ties" (not necessarily a resident, or even born there)
  
• "Talks the talk" of evangelicals (altho not necessarily one himself)
  
• Ties to one or both of the petroleum and/or financial services industry, and possibly to the defense industry.
  
• "Comfortable" with Arab potentates.

I think it is either Jim Baker or George H. Bush or somebody very tight with both of them. (LIke a Saudi business man with substantial US investments)

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Darth Cheney!

It is all about the Power behind the Power.

Lyon, Wortham, Fondren, Stewart, Armstrong, etc.

The ones you never hear about are the ones holding the strings.

big parts of it. All of them have reached their positions through manipulating the revolving door of government to (de)regulate the private industry they go back to for their payday.

I think James Baker, I hear he works alot in the shadows

But I don't really mean 'the Illuminati'. I mean there are a few
groups of people, who, like the Illuminati were or are rumored to be,
are essentially invisible to public view. I think you have to think
globally.

Look at the Carlyle Group. Check out their website. former Prime Ministers, Presidents, Royalty etc...but that's just about making
cash.

A friend of mine thinks there are three focused powers...

China
Britain
Vatican

(we are Britain)

The people in these power groups long, long....LONG ago got beyond
any needs for money or material things.

They want power.

But...I don't want to discuss this further if no one is interested.

As for the current administration...take a look at what they are
leading us to. IMHO if things continue ..the middle class is destroyed.
There is only rich (a very small number) and a bunch of peasants.
This is a sick "John Birch" type theory but the sicker thing is
GHWBush's famous "new world order" speach and what the current powers
are actually doing.

Scary when it looks like Birchers were right about anything.

Powerbrokers behind the scenes manipulating agendas to achieve their goal of world government. Google "Amero" the new currency they are cooking up to get rid of the dollar and American sovereignty with it. The invasion from the south of third worlders is no accident, it is by design and not just for cheap labor. It is to balkanize the US to destroy it. People need to wake up.

I believe our leaders' orders are coming from a palace somewhere in the Middle East. It's strange to me how deals with Middle Eastern nations keep coming to the surface, like the Dubai ports deal and there are probably many we don't know about.

Also, this is a worldwide consortium of some kind and I sure that anyone who comes too close to sniffing out the truth will end up conveniently dead.

critical for transport from the Atlantic to Pacific for
bulk trade (ie oil among other things)...

China has control over the west and east end of the canal.


Did anyone catch the NY Times article about the US 'concerns'
about the 'new military' China is presently developing?

Just waiting until China starts issuing DICTATES over
Taiwan...what we gonna do?

and their wholly-owned subsidiaries the Republican National Committee and the Republican Party

they call the shots through RW functionaries. Third or fourth down the food chain is the Cheney cabal, aka the bushgang.

Cheney was the spider charged with mobilizing the bushgang, but now that he's too sick to function . . . ?

aren't even on that list.

I sort of think that at some point, 'richest' might become meaningless.

For example, guys like Bill Gates have very little to do with
what we are talking about.

Instead, Google "P2 conspiracy" and start looking at that.

Or, google "Porter Goss" and "Barry Seal"

have fun

the Cheney cabal are in the service of capitalism

maybe instead of 100 wealthiest, read the list of donors, then track the money back to owners of the corporate interests served by the donors

I’ve always stayed away from the fascist label because it is not as descriptive as a clearer view of what we have here. Essentially neocons should be called neocomms. Communists and fascists are similar in structure in that a small number or body of individuals believe that they know better or are in a superior position to decide what is best for the peasants.

The traditional most popular model of communists, are in a socialist economic system. The fascists are similar in the control of society factors but the “controllers” are, in the traditionally expressed model are far fewer in numbers then what we have in the existing model. In our current functioning model we are a combination of a fascist and communist system. The controllers in our model are more of a party then anything else as they are quite numerous, probably numbering in the range of quite a few thousand “controlling” capitalists cabal. While the majority of these “controllers” are predominantly American stock holders, owners, and old money interests there are many from a number of other countries. As I see no particular reason that a communist must of necessity be socialist I think our model is most clearly understood as a communist system.

As far as who is the governmental body working the infrastructure the big power players are daddy chimp, Jim Baker, Cheny, Rumsfeld, Negroponty and a few others that all serve the party. Chimpy is way way down on the list. A group (I) call noecomms whose agenda is to gain control and establish the superior position of the American Corporations as the capitalists model for the New American Century. That is, the world is under their control through control of all natural resources, and manufacturing capabilities, with “America” (not to be confused with Americans) in charge.

J.R. Bob Dobbs, to be precise.

Get yer slack on ...

wrapped in an enigma and ... smothered in secret sauce.

As to who that is well it involves of course the Bush Brood, but real power rests with mega-corporations (the CEOs who run the companies) like Carlyle and Halliburton with ties to the Saudi monarchy, The UAE, pro-coalition nations and anyone else who would participate in the Army of the Willing.