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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:03 PM
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As Lay and Skilling cry themselves to sleep tonight...
...I'll be thinking about how today's verdict marked the beginning of the end for another sad chapter in American history. The government and Corporate American have betrayed America again and again and it's not getting any better. Why are complete scumbags the only ones who get to run this country? Will a trustworthy person ever lead America again?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:05 PM
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1. Were they taken into custody ?
I doubt the shed one tear.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:11 PM
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4. They're looking up to 30 years in prison
For Lay, who's 64, that's pretty much the rest of his life.

You're fooling yourself if you think they're even remotely happy today.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:13 PM
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5. Lay's kids bailed him out. They put their houses up for the bond.
That is what I heard on KPFK in Los Angeles. Lay's a huge flight risk in my opinion. He probably has enormous amounts of cash stashed overseas, and what is more, he has many, many friends in other countries. His bail could not have been high enough.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:06 PM
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2. I was happy with President Clinton while he was there, despite
the fact he got a - horrors! - blowjob.
This admin is doing a lot more damage. Time to get them out!
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:11 PM
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3. They know they are going to prison: heaven to hell
Appeal all they want, in the end they are doing hard time.
And that ain't pretty. Especially for these overprivileged
bastards.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:27 PM
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6. there will be appeals...to republican appointed judges...all the way to
chief justice roberts, so well loved by democrats in the senate.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:34 PM
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7. Is Lay in Custody?? or has a private party/gathering taking place ?
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:50 PM
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8. Both of their passports have been taken away...
They are not currently in custody. The sentencing is scheduled for
September 11th (I've kept up with this travesty because my brother lost EVERYTHING and had worked for Enron since graduating from college. He's now 58 and looking for work).
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:54 PM
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9. No prison sentence is long enough
to compensate for that.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:56 PM
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10. i certainly hope your brother has a good nite
seeing justice served upon those 2 criminals.

tell him good luck on his job searching from me, it's got to be tough these days.

peace
dp
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:02 PM
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11. Will they be free while they appeal?
Or will they have to appeal from the fancy Federal prison they will be sent to. After the Judge sentences them will they be frog marched to prison like the crooks they are?
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:09 PM
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13. i saw them both cuffed and led away
after the verdict today on the local news at noon.
I believe it was current shots of them, or so said the talking head.

They will appeal (since that's the way law works most times) and have read bail has been posted on Lay by his kids.

I hope they have to wear an 'ankle bracelet' designed by Martha Stewart, spikes on the inside in this case, everyday they await sentencing.

dp
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:04 PM
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12. WE'll find on maybe in a week or two the sentencing date? perhaps
it'll be extended to 1/09?? )oops, P-A-R-D-O-N me baby)
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:11 PM
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14. sentencing scheduled 9/11/06
freaky eh?

dp
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:24 PM
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15. Sorry guys, but the worst these guys face is playing bridge at a Club Fed
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

No hard time for them; they'll get sent to a Club Fed

There are several federal prisons known as Club Feds, where white collar criminals play bridge and tennis and have the run of well-manicured grounds with cozy cottage type buildings. I visited one at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama to take the deposition of a convicted felon/ex major law firm partner, whose grandfather had been editor of Harvard Law Review. He had a different self-help group meeting to attend nearly every night. There was gamblers anonymous, alcoholics anonymous, etc. His bridge partner was former West Virginia governor, Arch Moore. No longer there was John Mitchell, convicted while Attorney General of the U.S., and sentenced to 19 months at Maxwell. I understand now they have a health spa. A more recent resident at a Florida Club Fed is a Baltimore Ravens football player convicted on a drug charge. The mix at these prisons is about 30% white collar criminals and 70% drug offenders. Here are two links. I'm having trouble getting the first one, to the St. Petersburg Times to work, but if you google "Maxwell Air Force Base" and "Club Fed", you can get it.


www.sptimes.com/2005/05/07/Hillsborough/_Club_Fed_or_re...
'Club Fed' or real hard time?
Three convicted in a Tampa housing scheme will spend time in federal prisons.
By JEFF TESTERMAN, Times Staff Writer
Published May 7, 2005

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Chester M. Luney, the former executive director at the Tampa Hillsborough Action Plan who also was convicted in the bribery trial, also has reported to prison.Luney, 60, arrived at the Federal Prison Camp at Montgomery, Ala., on April 29 to begin serving a two-year, nine-month sentence. An Air Force veteran who also worked as an $80,279-a-year Veterans Affairs psychologist, Luney requested the Montgomery facility, which is on the grounds of Maxwell Air Force Base.

The prison camps in Pensacola and Montgomery are classified as minimum-security facilities. They are without walls or gun towers, and house a mix of inmates, about 70 percent drug offenders and 30 percent white-collar criminals.

The Baltimore Ravens' $5.8-million-a-year running back Jamal Lewis began serving a four-month sentence at the Pensacola prison in February on charges arising from his use of a cell phone to set up a cocaine deal.
Joe Paulus, a former Wisconsin district attorney who pleaded guilty to taking bribes in 22 cases he prosecuted in Winnebago County, is serving a 58-month sentence there.

At both prisons, inmates take weekends off. After daily work details wrap up, they may watch TV or use recreational facilities. At Montgomery, that includes softball fields, basketball courts, pool tables, weight rooms, a library and a room for playing acoustical musical instruments.
Inmates must wear institutional green pants and numbered shirts and work boots. They share communal toilets and showers. Their three meals a day consist of food that costs the government $2.60 a day per inmate.


www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/8458.html?112279...

A DIFFERENT KIND OF GATED COMMUNITY
The New Orleans Times-Picayune
23 July 2000

If Edwin Edwards fails to convince the courts to let him stay free during the appeal of his racketeering and fraud convictions, he will be assigned to a federal prison after his sentencing, which is expected this fall. Soon-to-be inmates can request a prison, but the final call is up to the Bureau of Prisons. Here are some of the prisons where convicted Louisiana political figures have served time and where Edwards could eventually be assigned:

1. EGLIN (Fla.) FEDERAL PRISON CAMP
Vital statistics: 884 inmates. Opened in 1962.
Advantages: Eglin is the federal prison most often associated with the "Club Fed" legend of country club-like accommodations for white- collar criminals. The well-manicured grounds feature a tennis court and a secluded bay inlet for sunbathing. Visitors can stay at nearby beach resorts in Fort Walton Beach and Destin.
Disadvantages: The prison camp is on the sprawling Eglin Air Force Base, so inmates must put up with hearing fighter jets roaring overhead.



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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:22 AM
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16. Bernard Ebbers and the others - are they in
prison? Was he WorldCom or Global Crossing?

There have been so many Republican thieves, crooks
and liars, I cannot keep them straight.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:25 AM
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17. They will leave the country, or Bush will pardon them after the election
they will never serve time
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