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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:14 PM
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Poll question: Which will be banned from the Internet first?
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:18 PM
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1. Porn will be the last thing ...

There's too much money in it, and the people who produce it have figured out how to grease a politician. Also, the mere fact of its existence provides to much opportunity for politicians to create morality issues and throw off a lot of rhetoric without actually doing anything.

Chat rooms, especially the truly free ones that aren't run by some megacorp, can be killed rather easily without anyone with money caring much.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:24 PM
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4. Porn is part of the Bread and Circuses, You need to
keep the sheep distracted, if you ban porn the sheep might wake up. Despite the objections of the Fundies, the elites will not ban it.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:26 PM
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7. porn
Porn may well be the new opiate of the masses. I wonder if Bushco would have been able to hoodwink America without it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:27 PM
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15. You mean, the public objections of the Fundies.
:)
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:22 PM
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2. Porn will be the first to go...
to paraphrase Milos Forman, first they go after the pornographers because everyone they despise porn and pornographers, next thing you know shakespeare is a pornographer, einstein and marx are pornographers.
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:23 PM
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3. Last time I checked, the Internet was global
Thus, someone would have to takeover the world inorder to enforce such a "ban". There are many questionable (in terms of legality under our system) activities going on right now on the Internet, however they are hosted/conducted outside of our borders in another country who's laws are different.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:26 PM
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5. I remember how those foreign websites and foreign
activist came to our aid during the early days of the black box voting investigation.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:26 PM
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6. Tell that to China.
:shrug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:29 PM
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11. China's managed to a pretty good job of getting around that
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:27 PM
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8. Loose copyright enforcement
DRM is coming in a big way. Vista is filthy with it, and so is the hardware coming down the pike, from CPUs to monitors.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:28 PM
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10. I change my vote to this ...

You're absolutely correct.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:28 PM
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9. It will never be banned at Hilton Hotels- Ramada Inn etc. too many
conglomerates involed including Disney-Universal
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:39 PM
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12. Government elections are banned
But they won't be for long, the way things are going.

Oops, that wasn't the question.

I don't see anything else being banned world wide, but some countries will start wars on some of the things you describe.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:48 PM
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13. Porn first, than ideas
First thing that will go will be porn. It will be the "Clean up the Internet Act" or some crap like that.

Then they were go after websites that are "too intelligent" or offer thinking.

Then the media.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:02 PM
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14. in an ideal world
Google ads.


dp
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:29 PM
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16. Looks like they're gunning for online gambling, too.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:39 PM
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18. you and me are the only ones here w. a clue
Edited on Thu May-25-06 11:42 PM by pitohui
the rest are just theories, but we are actually watching the legislation that is actually being proposed

it's good to know someone else is awake around here

:-)

they've already made it next to impossible for the fish, i mean the customers, to use their credit cards to deposit money at online casinos

now they want to block our ability to get and receive e-checks and ACH deposits, jeez louise, if the fish i mean entertainment seeker cannot deposit his money how is the person w. a brain supposed to pick up any extra income?

of course in george bush's america it is always criminal to have a brain i suppose, why should there be any avenue at all for us to get any extra earn?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:44 PM
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19. I usually try to stash some links away for stuff like this...
Edited on Thu May-25-06 11:46 PM by Lars39
Here's one:
http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-1000133.html

On edit: Can you imagine how people would have reacted to this news even 20 years ago?
We've become so docile, it's not even funny.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:33 PM
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17. the FIRST to go will be americans gambling online
Edited on Thu May-25-06 11:37 PM by pitohui
they are moving on this as early as june

indeed internet gambling becomes illegal on i believe june 7 if you reside in the state of washington -- and it will be a felony, not a misdemeanor or a summons offense

a felony

if you are making a few extra bucks to pay for gas by playing poker in the evening in the privacy of your home and not bringing one customer into your neighborhood to destroy the peace and quiet and not burning one tiny bit of gas getting to a second job -- well guess what bunky -- you live in the state of washington, you are a criminal

porn is different, it will not be banned from internet because there is no equivalent to the huge casino resorts and native reservations that want to crush their competition by the simple matter of not having to compete w. them, brothels are not big business, they are small business, and they can't pay off the congress to make online call girls and boys illegal


i'm sorry to be right abt this but i am


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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:23 AM
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20. I voted for chat rooms.
Too hard to enforce the free flow of ideas with these around.

Next will be message boards, and all forms of interactive commenting.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:35 AM
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21. Other: Anything that mask your identity, obfuscates your data, or provides
Edited on Fri May-26-06 12:36 AM by MazeRat7
details about network traffic to/from your host.

Things like anonymizers (proxy servers), on-the-fly r/w disk encryption, pgp key servers, network analysis/sniffing tools, open wireless access points, etc.

Just a guess.. but it seems to me that once anonymity is completely removed, then making laws and monitoring their enforcement for all the other things listed becomes rather straight forward.

MZr7

BTW: I suspect the "war on the internet" will be about as successful as all the other "wars" over the past years...Now pass that joint.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:52 AM
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22. 'chat rooms' stories are on the info-tainment shows I hear
and there's no big money lobby fighting for that. It could be targeted as a camels nose under the tent, an easy target that gets folks used to internet control by big brother.
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