Is Al Qaeda a worthy opponent?

Or is it just a group of maladjusted religious extremists who got lucky by surprising us with 9/11?

I see nothing that constitutes anything but a band of renegades who we are treating as if they are an equal to us. It's the supreme joke to intimidate us with fear while profiting W's big corporate buds.

They like Bush, the emperor, have no clothes.

fight the Russian.

What happened after that I do not know.

is foolish. As is W's treating them as a worthy opponent.

You sure bush fighting them :rofl:

...don't you ever get tired of being right? :hi:

Public knowledge worldwide :rofl:
dont know about inside America :rofl:

The bums stole those last two elections from us, if you ask me.

I worked my self ragged for Gore and Kerry...like most of us here.

Not every American is an "Ugly American."

For that, check out the Far Right Wing.

was in American Hospital in Dubai 6 months before 911
He got a brand new dialysis machine :rofl:
And some CIA guy drop in for a chat :rofl:

...and articles.

More interestingly are the long-term ties between the CIA and Osama and the longer-term ties between the Bush family and the bin Laden family.

Less than 10,000 have been able to control an entire country with more than 150,000 coalition troops looking for them.

I wonder when the American public will wake up that they've been taken.

It's a big joke which has been played on us and bought/endorsed by W.

...or elect a Democratic Congress at mid-terms...and a Democratic president in 08.

Unfortunately, the sheeple are too busy watching Desperate Housewives and American Idol to care enough to do anything about it.


Every day I feel more and more that we have become the German people during Hitler's rise to power, watching in silence as democracy dies.

I think Al queada maybe like less than a hundred :rofl:

After all, Bush claims to have captured or killed at least 100 number twos. ;)

...because we've caught or killed at least 3 dozen Al-Qaeda "leaders" now, haven't we?

:eyes:

in the name of keeping us "safe" from "Al Qaeda".

Let's just hope we can stop it before we get a first hand view of Germany 1945.

to the latter.

The Bush administration is the real threat to our freedoms and American way of life.

Now there is a worthy opponent.

"How do we get the people to wake up?"

The answer to that question is a populist media.

I'm working on an essay on that subject which I'll reference when I'm able to start a thread here.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Thousand in prison with torture

And just reports of aaahh no 2 kill many times
Lots of name but seem like same name keep getting kill

No even one proven Al Quack Quack capture.

WTF they Superman or Houdini or they simply maybe just like finding a needle in haystack :rofl:

We all sleep better knowing the Marin County chapter of Al Qaeda Kiddie Warriors has been shut down. It's hard work, it takes time.

more pleased w/ our response to 911.

He has engaged us in a very costly, unjust, and bloody war with someone he didn't like (Saddam) that has done more to promote terrorism and anti-American sentiment than anything we could have done.

Then end result after all this bloodshed may well be an Iranian linked Islamic theocracy, and a bankrupted United States.

They are a definate threat, the problem is that the strategy employed has been ineffective in dealing with them. The effort in Afghanistan was somewhat helpful, but since then the problem has only been magnified by poor leadership.

I remember having to check for things that could be used as a weapon on an airline before I went to the airport, most of them very harmless. A lot of time and effort was wasted on this type of stupidity.

The last half DECADE has seen a lot of wasted effort and lives due to the ignorant leadership.

GWB has made us less safe in that span of time...

Afhganistan and Iraq.
Let this guys settle whatever they need too
Get a goverments running
Then asked world for what help they need
I think problems will be solved

Seriously there are lots of countries better able to help than the US with its bombs and guns.
We just go in with fund and help that is needed for rebuilding.

Of course than means US dont get oil.

Oh well bush like fight I guess
We just wait until US goes broke or US people drag him off somewhere they like him to be.

Hopefully these 2 countries people not too angry and not too much hate
Maybe they be too busy rebuilding and maybe after 50 or so years forget all this crap.

They have no country, at least until we finish failing in Afghanistan. The whole Iraq excursion undermined our capabilities to fight them effectively, while giving them more places to train there.

It doesn't really matter how many of them there are. BushCo has been inflating them as 'worthy opponents' for years. We need some realistic thinking for a change.

They had a world-wide organization with a lot of money and connections to a lot of powerful people. So they had a good foundation. But I think their eyes were bigger than their stomach.

They say also that Osama isn't the brightest bulb in the box either. The only thing he is good at is public speaking. He has no leadership skills at all. Now there are some smart people around him like Dr. Ayman Al-Zahrahiri who is highly educated. He probably is the true brains behind the organization. Many of the other people in Osama's circle has been taken out or captured. Most of their money has been frozen. We've captured their top recruiters in Africa. Al-Queda hasn't been destroyed, but they've been severely crippled.

Al-Queda was a moderate threat. But today, they are a low threat domestically. They can't pull off another 9/11 for several reasons.
Al-Queda right now focusing their attacks in Iraq. It is easier to do it there because they are established. To pull off an attack in the US, they need to grow and groom. That takes money, time, and resources. 3 things they don't have.
They also don't have any bio-weapons or nuclear devices. And to get one, they are going to need a lot of money and buy it off someone that isn't afraid to be hunted by the CIA or the Pentagon.

Iran right now is a low threat that is going to become a moderate eventually. Syria is no threat at all. North Korea is low and is going to stay low. China and Russia are neutral right now.

starring

geroge bu$h as Big Brother
bin Laden/al Zaqiri as Emmanuel Goldstein,
and "Al Qaeda" as "The Brotherhood".

since William Sherman did some traveling through Georgia during the Civil War (okay Georgia technically wasn't "in our country" but you get the gist).

he elevated them. Wars are declared between Nation-States. By calling it a "War", Bush gave them a status that they do not deserve.

By equating them to another nation (Germany, Japan, Spain, etc) that we have fought in the past, he made the group, in some way, seem much greater than it is in the eyes of those whose support we need in order to defeat them, ie. the masses of the middle east). Mao's dictum, that guerrillas must be fishes in the sea, applies more to Al Qaeda than it does for Hitler, et al.

Had he called 9/11 something along the lines of "a dastardly criminal act", then he could have easily LOWERED their status in the eyes of the part of the human race through appeals for justice for the victims of this crime and so forth rather than as a co-equal in a struggle for Word Dominance.


This, in my opinion, is the biggest blunder of Bush.