I'm glad Hayden is out of the NSA.

I'd rather see him standing in an unemployment line (or preferably, in a chow line at Leavenworth), but the CIA puts him out of the domestic spying business, as the CIA isn't set up to operate on US soil.

Question is: Who will take over at the NSA ?

That didn't stop them.

...FBI's supposed to handle the domestic stuff. But with the perpetual war for perpetual peace thing, a lot of people have just plain forgotten. I can totally understand, because it's not like the administration makes a show of respecting such fine legalities.

There is theory, and then there is reality.

Theory: NSA and CIA are supposed to operate outside US. NSA is operating inside, CIA could too.
Reality: NSA is operating inside the US, no evidence of CIA operating in US.

Could that change with Hayden running the CIA?
Sure.

But at least he is out of the operation of the crimes we already know about.

The CIA would be run by someone Bush wants and trusts whether it's Hayden or not so, it's not like I have a solution to the problem for the rest of the term. Of course, I have no idea who's going to replace him at the NSA either.

Hayden is at the CIA to shut it down and divert it's resources to Rummy in the pentagon and to continue full on spying on domestic soil....

let's be very clear here..... his role at the CIA is to keep the well trained assassins happy enough to not go on a bounty hunting expedition within the whitehouse.... he's basically a glorified babysitter....

good luck.. i know some pretty pissed off CIA agents....you know, the honorable kind that bemoan the haphazard bush nonleadership of their organization....

"off the reservation" had already left when Goss was put in charge. There is, it seems, a CIA "in exile." Many who left seemingly couldn't stomach Bushco's plans for the CIA.

but where are they now?

their country needs them to go bounty hunting....

now!!! not later... now!!!

I think his placement with the CIA is a step in creating a super-itelligence organization, a merge of sorts with the NSA and CIA and Pentagon. I fully expect the CIA to be granted the power to operate within the boundaries of the US (perhaps already has). Of course the operations would be covert, so we'd never know:

"The administration's decisions to rely on a small circle of lawyers for legal interpretations that justify the CIA's covert programs and not to consult widely with Congress on them have also helped insulate the efforts from the growing furor, said several sources who have been involved.

Bush has never publicly confirmed the existence of a covert program, but he was recently forced to defend the approach in general terms, citing his wartime responsibilities to protect the nation. In November, responding to questions about the CIA's clandestine prisons, he said the nation must defend against an enemy that "lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again."

This month he went into more detail, defending the National Security Agency's warrantless eavesdropping within the United States. That program is separate from the GST program, but three lawyers involved said the legal rationale for the NSA program is essentially the same one used to support GST, which is an abbreviation of a classified code name for the umbrella covert action program."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901585.html

In other words, set up a human spying operation here in the USA. A Stasi.

Hayden has not hesitated to disregard the law at NSA - what makes you think it will be any different at his new post? It's not like he will have to worry about congressional oversight.

That is if we couldn't get rid of him altogether.
The thing is that the NSA, being completely run by the White House/Military, is so politicized it's pathetic. Everyone in the NSA stays in line with everything they are told. The CIA, though more politicized than it has been in quite a while, has too many wild cards involved. Some there are not in line with Bush's actions. Many there are downright angry over some of the things the administration has done. Well having the General take over will change that, and it is my opinion that the whole agency will become subservient to the NSA.

It would almost be like a step down for Hayden, in a way, except he is a good little soldier who understands the big picture. That big picture is the complete consolidation of power for the military industrial complex and the corporate criminals that run our country.

There is a provision that was put in there specifically to enable the CIA to operate domestically.

It doesn't matter where he is, or which alphabet agency he's directing, Hayden is just one more fascist member of the Bush regime out to strip this country of all that once made it great. He's going to continue to do his dirty work no matter where he is, unless of course he's in that chowline in Leavenworth you mentioned. That would be the best place to put him, but sadly that's not going to happen until Bushco is out of power, if ever.