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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:05 AM
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ARRRRGH!!!! Ken Lay's guilty verdict has me PISSED.
Excerpts from ABC News.

Lay posted a $5 million bond secured with family-owned properties at a hearing following the verdict. He was ordered to stay in the Southern District of Texas or Colorado.

So let me get this straight...this piece of human garbage just got found guilty on all counts, and is STILL walking around free?
:wtf:

Thousands of people whose life savings were wiped out, and are probably facing a future of eating alpo and having the mortgages on their houses foreclosed because of this sick bastard, and this lowlife-scum-piece-of-human-excrement, was not only able to spend 60 million dollars on his defense team, he came up with enough bail money in the blink of an eye to make sure he does not even have to see the inside of a jail?
:wtf:

2900 Megawatts of electricity sent through a 15 megawatt rated transmission line under his orders, with the express purpose of triggering the ISO's congestion procedures so that California could be price gouged like crazy, and this completely vile, disgusting creature woke up in his own bed this morning, and probably got served breakfast by the staff at his mansion?
:wtf:

And you know what's next. That highly paid legal staff of his, will keep the courts clogged with appeals for YEARS, while they continue his bail, and he just walks around scot-free. Billions of dollars were stolen by this evil lowlife, and squirreled away in various Swiss, and overseas bank accounts. They can keep those appeals going on forever if they want to.

Ladies and gentlemen---what we have here, is the most glowing and shining example of the double-standard of American justice, that there ever will be. This guy will never see the inside of a jail cell. EVER. Jail cells are for poor people that rob liquor stores of 150 dollars. Jail cells are not for rich white royalty that steal BILLIONS and ruin thousands of lives.
:argh:


"I firmly believe I'm innocent of the charges against me," Lay said following the hearing. "We believe that God in fact is in control and indeed he does work all things for good for those who love the lord."


This just pisses me off because it is just one more example of an evil, rich, neo-con, pnac-enabling, convicted criminal, that thinks nothing of wiping his rear end with the bible, and sullying the names of real Christians everywhere.


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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:06 AM
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1. But, but, but...
He had to mortgage his houses. Oh, the humanity! :nopity:
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:08 AM
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2. Yes, and he can't visit his winter home in Southern France either.
Gotta be hell for the poor guy...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:08 AM
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4. I hear ya. I myself thought he was broke, subsisting on bread and
water the way they talked. :eyes:
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:08 AM
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3. We are the land of the free...
Even for convicted criminals, er, I mean rich convicted criminals.

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:08 AM
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5. I hope to God...
they made him surrender his passport.

Some countries with no extradition agreement would be mighty good hideouts for this piece of human excrement.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:53 AM
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19. When you are that rich, passports and visas are inconsequential.
Fly out of an out-of-the-way airport in your Lear (or whatever is preferred these days), drop a few bribes, and you can go anywhere.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:11 AM
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6. There are many people that are far, far from rich who

post bail and are out while on appeal if the judge does not feel they are a danger to society.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:57 AM
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20. A further condition is if they are a flight risk.
If you are far from rich, and scrounge up the bond by mortgaging the family's holdings, you're not likely to jump bail and impoverish your family.

This guy would willingly spend 5 million to avoid spending the next 20 years in jail -- he's already spent far more than that, and he has it to spare.

What countries do not have extradition agreements with the US?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:34 PM
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23. Very, very few don't have extradition to the US n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:14 AM
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7. 5 M bond secured with family properties? I thought he said he was broke
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:19 AM
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12. That was one of the loopholes that the cons put in the bankruptcy bill.
Besides, him cracking open a secret overseas account to pay cash for the bail, probably would not have gone too well.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:14 AM
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8. White collar crime privilege.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:14 AM
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9. I hope he tries to flee
And then is caught so he can lose his bond and then get placed in prison for the rest of his life even poorer than he was today.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:38 AM
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16. He won't flee, at least not yet
He plans to appeal the verdict, and flight at this point would hurt his chances.

But, sure, I'd love to see him try it!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:15 AM
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10. Once Again Wealth Bends Every Rule of Law there is
For you and me, it's a life sentence.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:17 AM
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11. You're so right... And I'm so...


...depressed now... The American dream is just a poisened fairy tale...
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:20 AM
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13. sleazebag
Lay posted a $5 million bond secured with family-owned properties

Operative words: "family-owned." The scumbag transferred his holdings to family in an attempt to keep the creditors from them.

Actually, though, it's not the "verdict" that has you angry. It's what Lay is doing in response to the verdict that has you angry.





Cher

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:24 AM
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14. Dam you is mean! He had to sell his 8th house for that money!
He's only down to 7 houses now! For the love of Zod, has not the man suffered enough!?!?! I mean, only 7 houses! How is he going to keep up with the other snotty rich in jail? :sarcasm:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:24 AM
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15. Be a real shame if one of the fleeced took a shot at him
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:50 AM
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17. A person who is innocent does not say "I believe I am innocent".
He says, "I am innocent".

It is not a matter of belief, but of fact. By interjecting 'believe' into it, he is admitting guilt.

He could legitimately say (were it the truth) "I believed that all we did was legal." But that mitigation is on the statement "I am innocent", which he did not say.

He was, and is, a liar.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:09 PM
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24. Good point!
Nice way of looking at it. I hadn't considered it before.

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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:51 AM
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18. Where is the part about
George Bush pardoning him?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:20 PM
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21. He isn't getting preferential treatment here. This is standard in federal
cases. He'll be going to prison for a very very long time. Oh and for the record he didnt have to come up with $5,000,000. he had to come up with $500,000 which can come in the form of a lien on his house. I have no idea if he has the money but you only need to come up with 10% of the amount.
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slide to the left Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:32 PM
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22. I wonder if they (those who lost thier retirement) can file
a class action lawsuit against him.
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