$600 A Foot? I'm Just Sayin'!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, folks that is what a fence at $3.2 million dollars a mile would cost on a per foot basis

SIX HUNDRED FREAKIN' DOLLARS PER FOOT!!!! OK, so it's 45 feet tall, but if you had the average backyard fence, make of PVC and it was 6 feet tall, you'd still have to pay $80 per foot. I would suggest that there would be no fences in ANY backyards if fences cost $80 for every foot.

Think of it this way. The line between your backyard and your neighbor's yard would likely cost $7000. Seven grand for just one third of the fence! Would anybody here pay $21,000 for a backyard fence? I doubt it.

And, on top of all this, we're NOT talking about a PVC coated privacy fence. We're talking a cyclone fence here. Those are about 1/3rd the cost of PVC, INSTALLED! So, back to the prior example: Your PVC privacy fence would cost $63,000 to go around the average backyard. Who would do that?

And like Janet Napolitano said, "Show me a 50 foot fence and i show you someone building a 51 foot ladder."

My question is: Since a fence can't really cost $600 per foot, where is the money really going?
The Professor

... that come for estimates here... "But I swear Mrs. M, it's a real steal"...

. . .$600 per foot??? Puhleaze! That's why i'm suspicious about where the money is really going.

A cyclone fence for $600 per foot should be about 500 feet tall, not 50! Who's pocketing the cash?
The Professor

goes to the Environmental Impact Statement, part to the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan(s) and control devices, part to Blackwater to provide security for the construction crews (okay so that one might not be accurate). Note: I'm not defending the cost at all, when I first heard the 3 million/mile cost projection I was slack jawed. When we put up the fence around the installation where I work, 10 foot w/3 strand barbed wire, the cost was 13.50/foot (72k/mile) if I remember correctly. If a 50 foot fence ran 10x more, that's still only 720k/mile, a far cry from 3 million. Someone's good buddy is getting a sweetheart contract somewhere.

Halliburton, Cheney, . . .

are used to climbing walls.

These gummit critters sure are lucky things like the GAO have no real power anymore. Otherwise someone might have the power to hold them...wait for it...responsible for their financial decisions! Heaven forbid that happens! :sarcasm:

although I was going to say the $1,000 toilet seats.

Forgot about the 1k toilet seats! :rofl:

no-bid 'contractor', of course.

There is no chance a fence will ever be built across the entire border. For one, it'll cut right through neighborhoods on the American and Mexican side. Would you want an ugly 50 foot fence 10 feet from your back door?

This whole thing is just silly. Even if there was a 10 foot thick, 100 foot tall concrete barrier, they can still tunnel under, fly over or come in end-around from the Gulf. Are they planning to extend the fence out into the Gulf of Mexico?

one of my clients is a fencing company. i bet they could do it for a lot less...:eyes:

to save some money?! What a waste... this country is fucking stupid! This fence won't stop shit!

$400 a pop

illegal immigrants to build it . . .

not illegal dayworkers?

Ask anyone in construction what's been happening to the price of materials in the last few months, since most of those materials are shipped by land.

For those open ended no bid contracts that have been so popular since Bush has taken office.

And, unlike the Great Wall of China, it'll automatically attract visitors from Mexico and points south without having to be attractive.

Bush turns to big military contractors to gain control of U.S. borders

By Eric Lipton The New York Times
THURSDAY, MAY 18, 2006

The quick fix may involve sending in the National Guard. But to really patch up the broken border, President George W. Bush is preparing to turn to a familiar administration partner: giant military contractors.

Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and Northrop Grumman, three of the largest, are among the companies that said they would submit bids within two weeks for a multibillion-dollar contract to build what the administration calls a "virtual fence" along the U.S. borders.

Using some of the same high-priced, high-tech tools these companies have already put to work in Iraq and Afghanistan - like unmanned aerial vehicles, ground surveillance satellites and motion-detection video equipment - the defense contractors are zeroing the long borders that separate Mexico and Canada from the United States.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/18/news/bush.php

one that makes an artistic statement--like the Great Wall of China-we can proclaim it as a historic art treasure and charge people to see it. Yeah, then Mexico can charge on the other side and both governments can make some revenue. If it's going to cost $600 a foot, it better damn well look like it's worth the money. Maybe we could get some artistic metal workers--I mean who would put a ladder on a piece of art? :sarcasm:

I live in Los Angeles and we have some great muralists here (mostly Latino, I think, but there may be some Asians also).

It would cut through a plastic fence like it was butter.

some repuke is putting $50 in his pocket for every $1 that gets spent on making this a better country.


and the bastards will take that $1 back if they can.

Blackwater gets $950 for each contractor in Iraq. So they must be using the same accounting system to figure out the price of the fence.

I can bet most of that money is not going to the undocumented workers they will no doubt be using to build the fence to keep out undocumented workers.

how many $600 toilet seats the Government could buy with that?