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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:57 PM
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July issue of Seventeen-Freepers strike again!
Okay, so today I got my July issue of Seventeen magazine today and guess what! More freepers and more stereotypes of Mississippians. I'll explain.

First, there was a letter from a 44 year old "concerned mother" (:rofl:) talking about how Pink (who was on the May cover) wasn't a good role model because, guess what, she has piercings and tattoos! Scandalous. So I looked to see where she was from. Hattisburg, Mississippi. Bleh. Yet another typical, stereotypical Mississippian making the rest of us look like Christian Conservitive hicks.

Secondly, in the May issue, there was a little "Take Action" type of thing and the issues were stuff like global warming, privacy (aka the "patriot" act), poverty and anti-american feelings. Seveteen, in my opinion can lean liberal sometimes but usually it shows both sides of the story (e.g. the 2004 election). So in the July issue, a Freeper girl from California (i didnt know Freepers lived in California) was all like "um lyk sevunteen...not evryune iz a dum liburul lyk u r!!1111 i luv tha patriot act!111 it iz lyk soooooo gud @ catchin terrissts and a-rabs!!!11" Well, she didn't really say that (I like to embellish the truth :) )but it was something to that extent, typical Freeper. I want to write a letter and be like "Look, ive been reading your magazine for a long time and most people from Mississippi that have their letters printed are the stereotypical Southerner-Christian and Conservitive and I just wanted to let everyone else in America know that not all Mississippians are like that" and then refute the Freeper's points. But I can't really get it into words...bleh I hate that. But i did write a poem about Mississippi last night. I'll post it later if ya'll are interested.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:03 PM
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1. Hello Tinfoil Tiaras
I'm an old fart. I don't read 17 magazine because I haven't been 17 in, well, along time. But I am a veteran and I live in South Mississippi and I am a flaming liberal. I post just to let you know that I agree, not all Mississipians are bible thumping haters. Now you ensure you get a good education because that is one thing that separates liberals from conservatives, a well rounded pile of knowledge in your head.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:07 PM
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2. So...
... Are you two the only two liberals in MIssissippi?
















J/K:evilgrin:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:11 PM
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4. Yes
Tinfoil Tiaras and I are the only liberals in Mississippi. I believe there are about five in Alabama and eight in Georgia. We make up an awesome voting bloc. Similarly there are only four conservatives in Michigan and approximately that many in states which border Michigan.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:56 PM
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20. Three in South Carolina
Edited on Fri May-26-06 03:57 PM by nxylas
...that I know of, including myself (though I don't count cos I'm British-born, and all Europeans are considered liberal by American standards ;-) )
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:12 PM
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5. Thanks for the advice
I do go to what people call "The best school in Mississippi" so I guess thats a plus.
:)
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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:18 PM
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10. Haha. The best school
In a state that is last for education?

:)
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:22 PM
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13. Yeah, its a private school
but it isnt one of those white-flight segregation private schools. Its a rare jewel in Mississippi...diversity with good education.

The Ocean Springs public schools are very good though. My aunt teaches at an elementary school down there and my cousins have all gone through the public school system.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:23 PM
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25. And I'd bet dollars to pasos that if someone wanted it bad enough

they can and do get a good edcuation at even the last school in the state that is last in education.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:10 PM
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3. And remember...

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it." Aristotle.

That's what typically separates liberals from their christian (small c) counterparts.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:13 PM
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6. Oh yeah
Most conservitive arguments consist of "I'm right, you're wrong and Jesus hates you, you peace queer homo!!!"
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:58 PM
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21. Wow! I'm edumacated! I'm always enteraining ideas I can't
accept. Like my mind entertains a vaction in Tahiti I can't accept because I don't have the dough ray me. Serioulsy though...when I first read Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason" I was just blown away since I had been raised in the south (NC) under very fundie training and to enterain his sort of ideas was pure blasphmy (sp) sure to doom you to hell.

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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:16 PM
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7. I am liberal and living in Texas...
But I don't see Pink as that great a role model for young girls. Tattoos and piercings. I told my daughter, someday, you are going to have a job and what you put on yourself will make a difference. There is more to life than today.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:18 PM
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11. Yeah, I would never personally get tattoos or piercings
but if a person wants to, hey thats their choice. But, at least in my opinion, celeberties arent supposed to be role models (some exeptions, but very few). They're supposed to be entertainers. No one's perfect.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:08 AM
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31. I've got tattoos but
they're in very discreet places, not for public viewing.

The only visible piercings that bother me are brows, noses and lips because for the majority of people who get them, one day they're going to decide they don't want them anymore and they'll be left with visible scarring. I know a 30-year old woman with a pierced lip and when she's deep in thought she kind of tugs on it with her teeth. She's gradually making the hole larger and larger and if she ever takes that thing out of her mouth, she's going to have one hell of a scar.
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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:16 PM
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8. Yeah, do it!
Edited on Fri May-26-06 03:18 PM by Us vs Them
As a typical Yankee, I'd have to say that my gut perception of most southerners (ESPECIALLY Mississippi, no offense) is that they'd eat up all that Patriot Act, Concerned Mother, Love it or Leave it! America rhetoric. Statistically, I'd be correct in my assumption. However, when you write Seventeen, I'd start out by complimenting them on their record of presenting both sides of every issue (like you said above) and in the interest of promoting a reasonable and responsible political dialogue, you would like to represent the other side of Mississippi to the readers of Seventeen. Editors love letters that start with compliments.

I would keep it light and amusing, with not too much political rant involved, because I'm sure they don't want to devolve into a venue for partisan bickering. However, I think it's important that you do set the record straight!

P.S. Your username is lol!

Good luck!
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:28 PM
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14. Haha , its okay
about the Mississippi stereotype. I have a friend who's really liberal and moved to Mississippi from somewhere up north a year ago and she said she thought Mississippi was what you said it was too.

I'm gonna work on that letter right now! Thanks for the advice! :)
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:33 PM
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15. Well said and I second that... n/t
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:17 PM
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9. How does that make her a Freeper?
I disagree with her point that body piercings and tattoos make one a bad role model, but I'm guessing a lot of people over 35 still consider tattoos and such Hell's Angels territory.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:20 PM
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12. The Freeper comment wasn't directed toward her specifically
but to the other girl who wrote about how great the patriot act was and all. I just think that tattoos and piercings is a petty reason not to like someone.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:49 PM
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18. Pull the other leg, it has bells on
Somehow, I doubt if a letter with all those spelling and grammar errors ever got printed in SEVENTEEN.



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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:36 PM
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16. where are the pics?
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:46 PM
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17. hyuk, hyuk, hyuk, , ,gawl-lee. . .Dem Freeptards shore kin right!
Welcome to the political world my, I would assume is a, teenage female friend.

Freepers are based out of Fresno, California. Jim Robinson, the Freeper G-d, is also in CA.

Pink has tattoos???? Yeah, she's a horrible role model. Listen to Dear Mr. President, Stupid Girls and Don't Let Me Get Me to see how she looks at most of the bimbos in music today.

The problem is, your state has alot of baggage. Trent Lott and two movies detailing the racism of Mississippi (Ghosts of Mississippi and Mississippi Burning) kind of make what you say hard to come across and get out to the public.

Mississippi, like Alabama, Kentucky and Arkansas, have lousy reputations and stereotypes, but they are both well documented.

Hell, I'm in Arizona. . .we're all knuckle dragging, beer swilling redneck cowboys here.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:18 PM
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24. Your assumation is correct
Wow. Freepers in California? My friend said when he went to california (he's liberal), he felt like really conservitive compared to them. I guess that's just a stereotype of california.

Yeah, Mississippi has a shitty past, but hey, who doesn't? It doesn't make it right though.

Arizona...I guess thats out in the Southwest...alot of Freepers like the south i guess...
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:53 PM
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19. Your rendition had me laughing
When I was 12 I had to have braces (wires tightened up with plyers-ouch) so I always looked forward to reading the copy of Seventeen with Cherly Tig on the cover and I wanted to be like her minus the blonde hair.

Freepers live in Orange County where Disney Land is. I'm from the south too (don't live there now) and it's true they get a bad rap but memories of the Civil Rights and Civl War still abound.

Sure, post your poem.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 04:21 PM
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22. darling...something tells me that you are way smarter than 17 magazine.
Sure i read it for awhile when i was around that age, but then i found Spin, Rolling Stone, AP, and now i love Adbusters, Vice, Vanity Fair...and Martha Stewart Living ;)

and it sucks to be so stereotyped because were Southern. All you can do is be intelligent and proud, prove them all wrong.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:24 PM
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26. Haha, well i think the magazine is better
than it was like 20 or 30 years ago. Then it probably just had fashion and makeup and stuff, but now it has like really sad real life stuff and some political stuff.

I love Rolling Stone. Especially the news articles in there. Vanity Fair has way too many ads I have to flip through. It gives my arm a workout.:)

I know and it makes me even angrier that there are people out there that just keep on perpetuating that stereotype...confederate flags, pickup trucks, W the president (every Freeper in Mississippi has one of those STILL on their cars), etc.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 04:51 PM
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23. Don't get discouraged.
My sister-in-law tells me that since I left Oklahoma, they are down to four Liberals there. I think I came out a little stronger for having to swim against the stream all the time, but DU is a good place to come when you get tired of fighting the tide. Welcome to DU! :hi:
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:28 PM
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27. Thanks! Glad to be here!
I remember the 2000 election, i was only in 3rd grade, but i felt really alone because all of my friends then were like "OMGZ! BE A BUSH GRL WIT US!!!" and all. I remember asking my mom why weren't we voting for Chimpy. Haha. That's the southern private school enviroment.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:42 PM
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28. LOL
Edited on Fri May-26-06 09:42 PM by Chimichurri
So in the July issue, a Freeper girl from California (i didnt know Freepers lived in California) was all like "um lyk sevunteen...not evryune iz a dum liburul lyk u r!!1111 i luv tha patriot act!111 it iz lyk soooooo gud @ catchin terrissts and a-rabs!!!11"


:rofl: fuh-nny!!

I wish I could help you with your letter but my writing skill gene never developed and judging by your post, I'd say yours is - cuz u got skillz!
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:44 PM
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29. Want more Freeper satire?
http://www.xanga.com/republicanhottiex3

Republicanhottie...a parody by yours truely. :)
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:30 AM
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30. omg yall!!!!111
very funny - If you hadn't put that disclaimer up, I'da had to ask you for your libural credentials. ;-)

Be careful, if you make your brain do that too much it might stay that way.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 01:31 AM
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32. Haha, the look on Chimpy's face
is absolutely hilarious!

oMGZ!!1!111 he iz lyk mah he-roww!!11111
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