25 Democrats voted for Hayden . . . . . where is the outrage?

Seems that noone cares about Hayden and his illegal wiretapping of American citizens :(

Plenty of outrage. Look further downstream in the posts.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :grr:

Notice who voted "no"-- practically every potential Democratic Presidential wannabe. They realize that the rank and file are getting restless. Cantwell woke up in time. Some others may not be so lucky. Are you listening, Joe L.?

the country with a large high-tech contingent. I wonder what happened to Patty Murray, though?

she doesn't."

They were afraid their offices might be raided.

NAYs ---15
Bayh (D-IN)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Obama (D-IL)
Specter (R-PA)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 7
Boxer (D-CA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dole (R-NC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Thune (R-SD

Dianne Feinstein voted for confirmation. She got an unhappy email from me. Boxer didn't vote. Not sure what to make of that.

she no longer has my vote

They think their job is to be a rubber stamp, it appears.

Then I went outside for a while to calm down and enjoy the day instead.

It's all been said before, a million times. It doesn't make any difference.

:banghead:

I just couldn't muster the energy to write another letter that will never be read and will be ingored.

Sadly, they seldom fail to live up to my expectations of them, which is that the overwhelming majority of them are lucky to avoid the prisons they should inhabit.

used it all up on roberts, alito, katrina, Iraq invasion, environment trashing, constitution shredding, women's right ignoring, diebold voting machines, stolen elections, deficit exploding, military overspending, social services cuts, no healthcare, education destruction........I'm exhausted!

continue to approve every BushCo nominee that comes down the pike . . . regardless of their qualifications, connections, or brains . . .

With a few honorable exceptions, the Democrats have shown themselves to be increasingly spineless. In this case even some of the usual honorable exceptions voted for this guy or chose to abstain (Frank Lautenberg, Barbara Boxer, what were you thinking?)

I don't get it. What hold do they have over these so called representatives of the people? Does the NSA have lists of who they were calling?

"Er Senator, this is General Hayden, just a reminder about that gay teen bondage 900 number you have on your speed dial. We wouldn't want any of your constituents to know about that, would we. Thank you for your support, Senator."

"Hello Senator, this is General Hayden, about those calls you made to a Mr. Jack Abramoff--thank you for your support, Senator."

Or is there simply an inertness and a committed belief that if they bleat "We love warrentless wiretaps too" loudly enough that somehow voters will see them as real tough talking he men and cast their votes their way.

I don't get it.

Someone's got to do this job.

"I believe we are on our way to a major Constitutional confrontation on Fourth Amendment guarantees of unreasonable search and seizure. I think this is also going to present a growing impediment to the confirmation of General Hayden (to be CIA Director). And that is very regretted." The refusal to brief the entire Intelligence Committee of both houses is actually indefensible in view of the way the situation is emerging. The discussion not to go to Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for content collection warrants is inexcusable.--Dianne Feinstein, May 11
http://feinstein.senate.gov/06releases/r-nsa0511.htm

Diane Feinstein excused Hayden, and voted FOR him
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"The CIA is critical to protecting America, but the Bush Administration has left it politicized and demoralized. America deserves real security, and that means a new Director who will repair the CIA, stand up for the Agency, and prevent anyone from politicizing the intelligence community.

Fixing intelligence also depends on real oversight from the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee. Time and again this Committee has shown itself more committed to protecting the White House than to dealing with the disarray in our intelligence community. The Committee must finally take the steps necessary to fix an intelligence system that has broken on President Bush's watch, including not only determining if General Hayden is the right man for the job ahead, but also completing its investigation into the Administration's misuse of Iraq intelligence. America's security depends on it."--Harry Reid, May 8
http://reid.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=255281

Despite what he said, Harry Reid voted FOR Hayden to "fix the intelligence system."
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"General Hayden has the background and credentials for the position of CIA Director, but this job requires more than an impressive resume. One major question for me is whether General Hayden will restore analytical independence and objectivity at the CIA and speak truth to power, or whether he will shape intelligence to support Administration policy and mislead Congress and the American people, as Director Tenet did. Another major question is General Hayden’s views on electronic surveillance of American citizens.

...Earlier this year General Hayden appeared before the Press Club where he said of the program: 'the intrusion into privacy is also limited: only international calls.'... It is hard to see however--if the leaks about this program are accurate -- how the only intrusions into Americans' privacy are related to international phone calls as General Hayden said at the National Press Club. And it's certainly not hard to see the potential for abuse--and the need for an effective check in law on the government's use of that information."--Carl Levin (D., Mich.), May 18
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=255787

Even after saying these things, Carl Levin voted FOR Hayden

:evilfrown:

A vast majority of us DUers are outraged for good reason at the Bush admin. When the pink tutu dems shit on us we get outraged for good reason. I think the Hayden thing is just anti-climatic. Sometimes the anger and sadness we feel just can't burn brightly 24/7. Our hopes are always dashed. Why do you think there's been 2 million posts on the truthout thing?

they all turn into rotting stinking fucking fish. Specter leads the parade every time.

We're so screwed.

I have nothing but respect for the man. If he felt comfortable voting for Hayden, I need to reevaluate my opposition...

btw JOe Conason supported Hayden

Up to that point, I still had a faint belief that the Democratic party might actually make a stand for the American people. How wrong I was.

Now I just expect them to stand back and watch, open-mouthed and slack-jawed, at the destruction of our country. If they had taken a stand over this illegal spying and destruction of our Constitution and having a jackbooted thug heading the CIA they'd sweep the November elections. Instead, they'll moan and bitch when they fail (again) to win a majority.

I've never felt such contempt for my own party - frightened mice, afraid of their own shadows. If *I* feel so much contempt for them, what do essentially non-politically involved voters think? I just don't see how this wins them support in ANY voter bloc.

that care about all Americans, including the ones who aren't wealthy.

aside and make a sensible decision.

And that's what real Democrats do.

disapproval. What's wrong with that? He would have still been nominated by the Republicans.