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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:52 PM
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Bush lackey gets into Harvard.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:55 PM
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1. pretty funny article
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:55 PM
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2. End Affirmative Action Now
:sarcasm:
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:05 PM
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5. You know, Republicans
only have a problem with certain types of affirmative action.

Affirmative action used as a corrective action to right past wrongs against African-Americans and other minorities traditionally left out of certain positions? Forget it!

Affirmative action for legacies? Right on!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:58 PM
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3. And the idiot-ization of America continues unimpeded...
Edited on Sat May-27-06 10:07 PM by BlooInBloo
Good job republicans.


EDIT: typo in subject.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:01 PM
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4. I don't get this. Is he enrolling in the MBA program?
How can he do that without an undergrad degree?
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:23 PM
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6. You are correct, no degree...
Ah well, Bachelors degrees are irrelevant anyway. They don't really teach the students anything useful about making money.:sarcasm:
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 11:56 PM
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8. Special case, according to the school...
If you read the article and the linked article in the Harvard Crimson, the weasely dean of the Harvard Business School explains that they can sometimes fit in a special case of someone without an undergraduate degree.

These are the same assholes who admitted Chimpy after he couldn't make the University of Texas Law School, and who even let him graduate. It's the ugly, corrupt underbelly of the Ivy League.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:05 AM
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9. Because they apparently made a "special case" for him. I read this
article from the Harvard Crimson (student paper) website.

I looked everywhere for the evidence of a prank, etc. No such luck.

Apparently they suspended the usual requirement of having to have graduated from college because of special circumstances, ahem.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513563


HBS spokesman James E. Aisner ’68 explained the decision to accept Gottesman, even though he is not a college graduate, by telling The Economist that “extraordinary circumstances will sometimes compel it to drop rule” of only admitting students who hold bachelor's degrees.

He refused to comment specifically on Gottesman, citing Harvard’s policy of not commenting on the admission of any individual student.

Aisner also pointed out to The Economist that Harvard would surely admit applicants like Bill Gates and Michael Dell, both of whom are college dropouts.

But the often-snarky British weekly noted: “Needless to say, holding the president’s hand-sanitizer is a far cry from heading a Fortune 500 company.”



Here's one reader's response, I'm PRETTY SURE he's being sarcastic, but it's so dry it almost made me doubt a little:

RE: Aide’s Acceptance Into Business School A Mocke
It can be argued that because Blake Gottesman did not meet HBS admissions
criteria he neither deserves nor merits being admitted into HBS’ MBA program. While it is true that neither Gottesman nor the nine hundred other applicants
have a right to be admitted, there may be applicants who are clearly more
deserving. One would think that those nine hundred applicants who met the
admissions criteria established by HBS and were not admitted would seem to have
a legitimate grievance should they object to Gottesman's admission. But this is
not necessarily true, as Gottesman’s admission is not a matter of moral dessert but one of entitlement. The HBS website proclaims that “there is no "ideal" admission candidate” and “diversity helps to enrich the learning process for all”. HBS’ decision to omit the requirement of only admitting students who hold bachelor's degrees and the acceptance of Gottesman into the MBA program was obviously in line with the purposes of the university and HBS, “to educate leaders who make a difference in the world” and to have “one of the most
influential alumni networks of any institution in the world”. Gottesman will benefit from a quality education from a prestigious university and Harvard will benefit from Gottesman’s future promise and his rolodex of Washington elites. What’s the problem?

Posted by Pierre Brown | 5/26/2006 7:27:35 PM




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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:07 AM
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13. "inside the thread" kick
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:20 AM
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11. I know a guy who got recruited to college without HS, then PHD without BS
So, technically if he quit now, he wouldn't even be a HS graduate.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:49 PM
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7. Not lackey....
but lickspittle.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:18 AM
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10. There goes a future president.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 01:19 AM
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12. What I find particularly amazing about this, thinking about it, is this:
how does this guy get the balls to even APPLY to any biz school, much less Harvard, with a year of college under his belt? Unless the calls had already been made, and his parents, or whoever, could tell him that the fix was already in, just send in the application, it's been taken care of.

Why couldn't the Biz school just tell this guy to get his bachelor's first, and hint to him that the fix was in and he'd be admitted as long as he get some kind of degree? Did his family, or shrubco, insist that they take him now?

And, I wonder how many white Republican males were NOT admitted where this guy was, who would have been outraged had a minority applicant with lower grades and test scores but who had a bachelor's degree gotten in ahead of them, and whether they have any outrage or anger over getting aced out by shrubco royalty?

I'll be curious whether there are any lawsuits, or even news coverage of this.

Harvard Biz School can't have wanted this to get coverage. I'm sure they'd have been just as happy for this to be an under the table deal, under the radar, to preserve their sterling reputation, ahem.

I can't think it would be that good for the student for this to be known, outside his crony circle everyone will know he's that "connected guy" and that's why he has that degree.
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TriSec Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:17 AM
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14. No local coverage
"I'll be curious whether there are any lawsuits, or even news coverage of this."

Nope, not a whit. The only grumblings are in the Boston Herald, a noted conservative rag owned by Rupert Murdoch. http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=140865

Nothing in the Globe, or the myriad of other local outlets. Nice to see the good people at Harvard maintaining their high academic standards. Small wonder the school is slumping so badly in recent years.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:17 PM
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15. Apparently he used to want to get his degree, that obstacle now removed:
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050530105809990001

(reprinted from NYT May 30, 2005)
From Jenna's Ex to a Presidential Jeeves
By ELISABETH BUMILLER, The New York Times

When President Bush shakes 1,000 hands, Blake Gottesman is ready with the Purell. When Mr. Bush is in his daily intelligence briefing in the trailer on his ranch, Mr. Gottesman is on site to dog-sit Barney, the president's Scottish terrier. When a member of the White House senior staff wants a word with the boss, Mr. Gottesman is there to recommend yes or no.

"People will say, 'Is this a good time to raise something?' " said Joe Hagin, the White House deputy chief of staff. "And Blake will say, 'Well, he's reviewing a speech right now,' or 'He's got a couple of members of Congress up in the stateroom on the plane, so it would be better to wait half an hour.' "

Part Sherpa, part butler, part air traffic controller, Mr. Gottesman, 25, is the president's personal aide. It is a job steeped in the minutiae of carrying Mr. Bush's Altoids, Sharpie markers and hand sanitizer, and in the delicacy of handling the check on the rare occasions when the president eats out. Mr. Gottesman also keeps track of the paper flow to the president, logs all his meetings and phone calls, and questions senior aides about grammar and phrasing in Mr. Bush's speech texts.

...

Mr. Gottesman, who finished one year at Claremont McKenna College in California before going to work for Mr. Bush's presidential campaign in 1999, has said that he wants to get his degree when his job at the White House is over and then go on to business school.

...
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