Frist says 5.3 million jobs in the last 3 years

were created. He also said more than 2 million illegal immigrants came over the border last year (and you would assume the year before that and the year before that). 6 million (and probably more) new people looking for jobs - 5.3 million new jobs = -.7 million jobs created by this administration. This doesn't even mention that there are more American citizens entering the job market than are retiring already. I'm not making this stuff up, Bill Frist just said it. Way to go bushco!

uh-huh, yeah, right whatever.

Oh, and the whole 5.3 million jobs thing? 99% of them are minimum wage or slightly above jobs in food service. :eyes:

I'm not sure what you're saying

a) Are for the most part not jobs that illegal aliens 'apply' for, and;

b) The jobs that have been created are not jobs that one considers pursuing a lifelong career in.

hope that helps. :hi:

for saying "illegal immigrants are taking out jobs" We're cool B-)

Those jobs might have been created with American companies, but the companies probably hired in their Indian offices. This has kept me wondering for some time whether the jobs shown are jobs kept in the US or whether the jobs can be created here and filled in another country. Most of the jobs kept here in the US do seem to be fast food related or temp jobs.

Are they net adds?

As the work pool grows, we need a certain number of jobs just to keep the net at zero.

Soundbites are always a problem and soundbite government is no government at all.

Today's national 4.7% rate is not only higher than the day he took office at 4%, but also dubious due to the Buschco Labor Dept's conveniant calculations based on fuzzy math and ommitted factors. 'Licans don't create jobs!

And not services type jobs. Good paying jobs with pensions!

has a sign in front that says, "Now hiring: apply today, start work tomorrow. Free popcorn and sodas and movies."

Who needs a pension when you can have all the popcorn you can eat? Vat a kuntry!!

:popcorn: :beer: :popcorn: :beer:

The US economy needs to create about 1.8 million to 2.1 million jobs per year just to keep up with the growing population. (150,000 to 175,000 per month) By my calculations, that is 5.4 million to 6.3 million jobs just for a net of zero.

You also have to take into account the HUGE increase in the size of the federal government under Bush (Dept. of Homeland Security, etc)... that has accounted for well over 1 million of the 5.3 million jobs. So, private sector hiring has really sucked.

By contrast, an AVERAGE 3 year period under Bill Clinton created about 8.3 million jobs. And, the size of the federal governmen shrunk under Clinton, meaning private sector hiring was actually greater than the final numbers.

Translation: Bill Frist = Asshat.

Here's what Frist said:

That policy (of tax cuts for the wealthy) in the past has resulted in the creation of over 5.3 million jobs over the last 31 months, unemployment that is down now to 4.7 percent, which is lower than the average of the '60s and lower than the average of the '70s and the '80s and the '90s. Homeownership up. Minority homeownership up at all-time highs.

First of all, it is very misleading and dishonest to say that the tax cut policy resulted in all of those 5.3 million jobs. Most of those jobs would have been created even without the tax cuts.

As for the unemployment figure, it is dishonest because he compares the figure at this point in time with the average figures for the last four decades. You could probably find single months in each of those decades when unemployment was as low as it is now.

Finally, Bush and the Republicans love to say that "more Americans own their own homes than ever before." Well, duh. That's because there are more Americans than ever before!

about 200,000 jobs. Repubs love to average numbers over short time periods. By their standard, Bill Clinton could have argued late in 2000 when the unemployment rate was 3.9% that he had the lowest unemployment rate in the history of this nation! Or at least since statistics have been kept.

I'm getting laid off in two weeks from a special project that I was helping the USDA with. They like me and my work, but the tax cutters have them in a very tight budget squeeze, so they can only keep me on until June 9, even though there may still be problems to iron out afterward. This is the best job I've had in 5 years and I have to leave. They aren't happy either, because if there are issues with the project after I'm gone their already overworked office staff will have to deal with it.

So Mr. Cat-killer Bill Frist you can take your bullshit rhetoric and shove it up your skinny ass! :grr:

SIDEWAYS!!!!!

It sucks ass. No benefits. I haven't had health insurance for almost 4 years. No paid time off whatsoever. 401k?? You've got to be kidding! Job security? They can tell you today is your last day at any time for no reason - and they do. I'm finally starting a real job on Tuesday. It doesn't pay much, but I'll have benefits. I'm still not going to be able to save much money but it beats the hell out of temping.

On the bright side for you, you can get a temp job within a week of applying and look for a real job in the meantime eventhough it's kind of a bitch to work around your schedule or you can pray they hire you on if you like your temp job and they pay is reasonable. Good luck!

I gon't get it... where are those jobs? Fast food? Walmart?

And, there are liars and damned liars who use statistics to lie with.

43% of those jobs come from Wal Mart and fast-food. So, you know that these are not the kind of jobs that the new employees brag about getting.