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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:31 AM
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"Gore wants to be drafted", says Chuck Todd on C-SPAN WJ (on now).
Edited on Mon May-29-06 07:34 AM by chimpymustgo
Todd's argument: he's already worked for it...he's a big Internet guy...he wants to see it bubble up from the grassroots.

I personally agree with that. If we want Gore, we have to tell him, and draft him. He's been vetted. And proven his vision and rightness on so many issues.

Edited to add: this is a discussion on 2006 elections, but of course 2008 came up; Hillary, the usual will she/won't she, followed by "what about Gore", with mention of a Karen Tumulty piece on Gore in this week's Time.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:35 AM
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1. I believe we have a possibility of drafting him -
But as of right now I am probably giving him too much credit by saying that I don't think he does want to be drafted. I think he desperately wants US to rise up and to make this nation what it should be -- if we RISE UP -- then a leader of the right caliber, like Gore - if not Gore, will appear.

When the students are ready, the teacher will appear.

:hi:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:37 AM
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2. Todd and the media in DC do not respect Gore - This is the latest proof
Edited on Mon May-29-06 07:38 AM by Mass
It is one thing to say there is an effort by the grassroots to draft Gore. It is actually a fact.

Saying that this is what Gore WANTS is implying that he is playing the diva and is not honest.

Do you think really Todd and co are pushing this image for Gore's benefit?
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:41 AM
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3. Todd was NOT negative toward Gore at all. Was respectful.
I should add, the Time story claimed Gore has been calling his fundraisers telling them they are free to back others. Todd's argument is that Gore knows he can raise money quickly on the Internet, but wants to see if "the people" will rise up to support him.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:44 AM
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4. You dont get it. They are pushing the meme Gore is a liar. He even lies
Edited on Mon May-29-06 07:46 AM by Mass
to his supporters by saying he does not want to run.

Sure, he did not call him a liar in so many words, but it is what he is doing in reality.

If he thinks what you say, he is actually lying in his interviews.

The DC media have destroyed one Democratic president and two democratic candidates, but we are still here happy when they say something we want to hear. Just unbelievable.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:49 AM
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5. Mass, are you watching? Todd was quite kind toward Gore...
...and I, like you, have seen enough snark against Gore to know the difference. Now, other media may try to push the "liar" meme, but, in all fairness, that was not Chuck Todd's intention. He appeared very fair, and respectful of Gore, suggesting some sympatico with the notion that Gore has proven his mettle.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:51 AM
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6. I think you are on to something
All I want to hear is the repukes are out of here, gone, kaput. Mr Gore and Feingold is our next pres and vp. straight from the keyboard of madokie's
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:57 AM
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7. Gore is on a media blitz, so NOW is the time
to let him know how we feel






Mr. Gore will be interviewed by Terry Gross on
NPR's "Fresh Air" on Tuesday, May 30, and will appear on CBS' The Early
Show with Harry Smith on Wednesday, May 31. Mr. Gore will appear on The
Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Thursday, June 8, and on The View on
Monday,
June 19. He will appear on The Late Show with David Letterman on
Friday,
June 23. In addition, Mr. Gore will make at least a dozen more major
national appearances to promote the book. He is slated for
book-signings
in New York, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Nashville, Houston,
Vancouver,
and other major cities. In anticipation of high demand for the book,
Rodale has already shipped more than 100,000 copies to stores. This
book
has been certified carbon neutral by Native Energy. For more
information
go to www.nativeenergy.com (link:http://www.nativeenergy.com/)”

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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:12 AM
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9. They actually went on to say, that he could pull off getting in at
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:45 AM by I_Make_Mistakes
the last minute (and still win because of name recognition, etc.) while letting the other candidates spend a significant amount of money during that time.

On the McLaughlin Group, John said Gore was right about global warming, right about the internet, etc.. Oh, let me look for the transcripts. They are not up yet.

What bothers me, is who is all of a sudden pushing for Gore and why?

Please, don't get me wrong I like and voted for Gore, and would do so again, so why all of a sudden is there an effort in the media to push Gore? Fear of Hillary? I don't know but it is strange.

edit : typo
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:17 AM
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10. It's an inconvenient truth. Both the movie and the re-emergence of Gore
the VISIONARY, starkly contrasting the F*ck-up-in-Chief. He's on his book/movie tour, and people everywhere are begging him to run. The media can't ignore it.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:01 AM
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15. I'd be willing to participate in "drafting him"; I just want to get throug
Nov. '06 without thinking about '08
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:01 AM
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8. Hey get the papers ready to draft Gore - I'm there - he's the only one....
......who can take this on and get this country back on track again. BTW, does anyone have Al Gore's true birth time?? Not just the date but his birth time as well???

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 AM
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11. Too bad he cried wolf like that in 2003 as well - some of us got tired
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:22 AM by robbedvoter
There was a draft movement - encouraged by Gore. Then he publicly shat on us. It was a hoot!
Not unlike the Iraq insurgency Poppy encouraged - but without the dying.
So, to the extent I still believe in elections - I am with Clark - the guy who didn't suggest a draft, but got one - and responded.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:21 AM
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12. Why would we want to do that?
When we could run with Hillary, a candidate that 45 of the population would never vote for under any ciscumstances?

I'm thinking the dream ticket is Hillary and Joe Lieberman.

But seriously, Gore is making the right moves. Anybody with any functioning brain cells can now see that the country made a huge mistake in 2000.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:42 AM
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13. One thing I do to calm myself is not listen to Chuck Todd and the others
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:43 AM by higher class
reporting their version of what Congress is doing. O'Reilly and Hannity are in your face and you expect what they throw at you. Chuck Todd and the others are insidiously sinister in their right wing bias. They give all the physical indications of their positions through sneers, smiles, ridicule, eyebrows, banter. They are up front anti-Democratic.

I now do chores when they are on.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:45 AM
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14. I believe that too. Let's draft a team! Gore!Clark!
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:49 AM by Kahuna
:woohoo:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:42 AM
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16. Gore is a different man now. I HOPE he runs!
I hoe he runs and takes Wes Clark as his running mate or Feingold or Conyers or Boxer....any of them would get my vote. I would DEFINITELY vote for him in the primary.

The ONLY thing I don't like about Gore is how he REFUSED to stand with the Black Caucus to stop the FL. electoral votes from being certified. The Senate LAUGHED about it. Shameful. Just SHAMEFUL. I could overlook that though, should he choose to run, BECAUSE he is NOT the same Al Gore who ran in 2000.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:59 AM
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17. It's not time yet!
Though a draft Gore movement could and probably should get organized, Gore doesn't want the emphasis to be on his potential candidacy right now. That much is clear.

Let's give it some time. Gore is doing something VERY important right now. Later will be time for his candidacy, should he choose to do that.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:38 AM
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18. A draft Gore campaign has begun and now is the time to let him
know that we will support him

He is getting plenty of free press right now.

We must seize the moment


http://draftgore.com/
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:48 AM
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19. I don't want Gore...
..because I don't think Global Warming is a winning issue at all. You want Americans to know you won't screw up the environment anymore than it is, and that you'll be mindful of it in decision making - but as a central issue I think it would bomb.

People say they care about it, but at the end of the day I suspect they only do around the margins. There is what people say they care and vote about (often telling pollsters what is politically correct or what they think they want to hear), and then there is how they really vote. The environment does not draw enough single issue voters across the country for a global warming platform to be effective. The message that global warming is more a threat than terrorism simply isn't going to be a winner.

Gore comes off as too much of a radical these days. That is attractive to politically partisan people, but I don't think it has broad nationwide appeal.

I'd bet Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, probably paired with a southern moderate along the lines of Mark Warner. Personally, I think Kerry might be stronger than some people think. He has refined his message and seems to have learned to fight back - but I just don't see how he beats out Hillary. Long way to go though.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:53 AM
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20. Gore should have been at the top of the ticket back in 1992
Just think of how different the world would be today if we hadn't spent eight years talking about Whitewater and bimbo eruptions but had addressed the environment.I remember watching one good man after another go down in the face of Clinton's juggernaut. We have got to find a way to may sure our primaries are driven buy ideas, not money.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:43 PM
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21. Works for me.
The Al-&-Tipper team would have my vote in a heartbeat!

:loveya:
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