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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:16 PM Original message |
Did your Confederate ancestors die dishonorably? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not sure what Memorial Day has to do with honor |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. agree, not nec honoring why died, but remembering their deaths |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I agree with you |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Sign on a Presbyterian church near me - "Happy Memorial Day" |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. I had ancestors on both sides. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. my Great |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. None of my ancestors on either side ever owned slaves that I ... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. nor mine Hubert- |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
76. Even if they did, what does it matter? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. Like you, my ancestors fought for the Union |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. The South considered itself |
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LA lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Military Cemetery |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. That doesn't surprise me at all |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I honestly don't know--imagine I have them on both sides... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
74. Especially liked your last paragraph. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. yes...(re: same shit, different century...) |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Grannie, you forgot Texas! |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Boy, am I embarrassed |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's OK. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. In less than 30 years |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. Sam Houston was Governor when Texas seceded.... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Yes, approval of secession was by no means |
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jpevahouse (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Letter |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. I didn't have family on either side |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. What about Lee's Pennsylvania Campaign? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. What about it? |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-31-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. The south was invading the north....duh. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. "Very few southerners owned slaves. " You said that right. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. Every soldier feels as if he's on the "right side".. Every soldier |
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liberaltrucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. They most certainly didn't |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Actually, the only one I know about is my great-great grandfather |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. My confederate ancestors died as honorably as did my union ancestors and |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I agree totally, Rowdyboy... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. thanks all, I didn't mean to imply in ANY manner- |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Mary Todd Lincoln's family were slave-owners, though she hated slavery |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. This mentality is what prompted the question: |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Robert E. Lee was a very honorable man... |
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BeachBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. He swore an oath to the United States of America |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. He was honorable to his time... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I believe that for him |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. What you say is true, but ... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. His state left the union |
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BeachBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Now I understand |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. Well, at least you did concede that rampant racism does exist elsewhere. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
49. I've avoided saying this ... |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. I sometimes wonder... |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. According to Gonzales and Addington it looks like they did! |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. Funny, they honer both sided of the Civil War but not our side |
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jpevahouse (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Decoration Day / Memorial Day |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. La doesn't have th decoration day crap |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why are you stirring up this? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. because the reasoning being played |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. don't know about that |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
79. Exactly, and if the British had won, which they probably would have |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. Ancestors fought on both sides |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. Confederates who owned more than 20 slaves were exempted |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
29. No! They Were Massacred By Union Soldiers in |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hard to say. After reading the Dee Brown book (I forget the title), |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. My ancestors fought for the Confederacy. AlI I can say is |
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murdoch (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. Did Southern workers support "The South"? |
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tenshi816 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 04:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
61. The DAR has nothing to do with the Civil War. |
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jpevahouse (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. Sergt William Reilly, Gant's 9th CS Cavalary |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. Slavery, much like democracy in Iraq, was the third choice for war... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 04:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. The election of 1864 might provide some answers |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. Soldiers fight for an ideal? |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. Yip n/t |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. I have ancestors who fought on both sides of the Civil War |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. Our understanding of the people who lived and died then is complicated |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
50. My ancestors died for a bad cause ... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm proud not to have had any confederate ancestors. |
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tenshi816 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Let's see, you hate southerners |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. The Quebecois and Icelanders are ok. |
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tenshi816 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. What's the difference |
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pookieblue (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. my dad's side |
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noshenanigans (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
56. My southern family... |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
58. Very hard question |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
59. I had some fight on both sides |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 05:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Mine too-- both sides... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
64. I have no Confederate ancestors |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
66. Favorite story from the Civil War |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-01-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Yes, you'd think that more people from the South (Repubs) would understand |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
67. I had great-great grandfathers that fought on both sides. (Both survived) |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
69. North married South |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
77. Like most soldiers they just died as cannon-fodder. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. Sad and stupid |
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