So when are Christian Activists going to protest this game?

They all jump high and fast to protest games like Grand Theft Auto but I wonder how quick we'll see them take action against this.

Oh and this means you too Hillary you two faced phony, yea that's right I still remember The Media Marketing Accountability Act that you and Joementum penned out.

Are you going to include this game as well? or better stay quiet and let your new religious yahoo masters have a pass.

If anything I fully support this release of this game nationwide-I hope it is sold everywhere from Best Buy to Toys R Us. (it won't be but still)

Why? for one it's protected by the 1st amendment, secondly it's a true telling of the real agenda of Right Wing Christians in this country-it exposes them for what they wish they could be as in reality they are nothing more than our Taliban only difference is they are not willing to die for their cause-they prefer YOUR kids do that for them.



Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life.



http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/29/195855/959

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=73160&mesg_id=73160

It certainly got my attention.

News about this game first got posted to the Sojourners (Rev. Jim Wallis's organization) list a short while ago. Here's an example of the initial reaction:



:spank:

When I wrote the above, I hadn't looked at the linked site yet. Now that I've had a chance to check it out, it appears to me that "Talk To Action," although open to anyone of any religious belief or lack thereof, seems to definitely be coming at this from a non-Religious-Right Christian viewpoint. Even if my assessment is incorrect, look at the comment thread for that story -- virtually all of the posts attacking the video game are from Christians, generally of an evangelical (and, hence, stereotypically more likely to sympathize with the fundies) viewpoint.

It seems odd to ask "when are Christian Activists going to protest this?" while basing the entire thread on a link to a site where they're doing just that. :eyes:

about http://www.talk2action.org/

I first learned about the Shadow War there. I now understand why O'Reilly, Hannity, and that blond dork (whose name I do not want to remember,) pony up that fake war on Christmas every year. It's to hide the real war on Christian Churches by the mega-religions.

Last Christmas, I referred so many to that site. And the ones that I saw afterward thanked me. They all said they had "no idea," but they could see it now.

Granted I played shoot-em up games all the time when I was a teen and turned out perfectly fine...but that's not the point. These are the same people who get their panties up in a bunch about...well...just about everything, and they are marketing up a GTA style game to kids?!? This is un-freaking-believable! Hypocrisy much?

just not killing, those mentioned in the article.

This is not good.

Edit: "to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians"

My blood is boiling after reading this atrocity.

Words fail me.

:mad:

It is outrageous

and am blown up? I'm getting papers drawn up for the lawsuit. Falwell/Bush/Robertson/Santorum pushed their theocracy a bit far.

to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians.

Anyone who does not declare them self a FUNDAMENTALIST is in abject danger.

Be afraid. Be very effing afraid.

Time to commission a game where Jesus comes to Earth to kick ass on all these fucking false "Christian" intolerant bigot assholes!!

You get to be Jesus with an AK-47, taking out the likes of Falwell, Robertson, Phelps, Wildmon, Sekulow, LaHaye and others!!

Now THAT is a game I'd enjoy!!

LoL too priceless I can see sort of the same thing happen here...maybe have Jesus posture around
I be representin da homes in Galileo beeyatch!

http://community.livejournal.com/dark_christian/

Left Behind: Eternal Forces

Yesterday, on T2A, we were introduced to The Purpose Driven Life Takers. An ultra-violent video game, Left Behind: Eternal Forces, based on scenes from the first four novels in the Left Behind novel series, puts you "on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state". It's to be rated T for Teens, meaning it is targeted at the 13-19 year old age group, and is "slated for release by October 2006 in advance of the Christmas shopping rush".

You can read another article on this travesty here: So Much For Rick Warren Being a Warm-and-Fuzzy Evangelical.

This is NOT what Christianity is about. Period, end of sentence. It's just so sad to see such a great man's philosophy so seriously corrupted.

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and first commandment. And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend the whole law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:37ff)

I simply cannot understand how these people can reconcile the game with his two commandments.

****

AND from Newsweek

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11567350/site/newsweek/

Newsweek
March 6, 2006 issue

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition:

Christians are finally getting a high-caliber shoot-'em-up videogame of their own. Due out on PCs in the second half of 2006, Left Behind: Eternal Forces is the first game adapted from the blockbuster books by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins. Gamers familiar with the largely uninspiring and unprofitable history of Christian videogames will quickly notice two differences in Forces: the top-shelf design, which offers an eerily authentic reproduction of the game's Manhattan setting, and a level of violence reminiscent of Grand Theft Auto. The game revolves around New Yorkers who are "left behind" after the rapture. Players scour the streets for converts, training them into a work force to feed, shelter and join a paramilitary resistance against the growing forces of the Antichrist.

Left Behind Games CEO Troy Lyndon, whose company went public in February, says the game's Christian themes will grab the audience that didn't mind gore in "The Passion of the Christ." "We've thought through how the Christian right and the liberal left will slam us," says Lyndon. "But megachurches are very likely to embrace this game." Though it will be marketed directly to congregations, Forces will also have a secular ad campaign in gaming magazines.

—John Ness

is this real?

:cry:

thank you for the response buffy

Unfortunately they would fall on deaf ears.


:hug:

i was actually thinking that i did have a few words myself but was too stunned to articulate them

may i ask you a question though if youre familiar with this at all?
i went to their website and for the amount of time i could stand to look at it i didnt see anything specific so do you know if they single out any other religion?

i have not read these books so i dont know if they mention any other religions or groups by name so im wondering when i saw the posted excerpt that lists out that the targets are catholics, jews muslims etc
was that from the left behind books or the game website or is that someone elses words?

thanks so much
i do realize they are the hard right of intolerance but only wondering if they admit it - do they come right out and say how hateful they are

on edit: my 70 yo mom has recently converted from protestant to catholic and before i share this with her i want to have my facts straight

Like the OP, I think normal, reality-based people are going to be horrified by this and are going to immediately and clearly see the contrast between Jesus' actual teachings and this spew.

How bizarre that the creators go out of their way to say "especially moderate, mainstream Christians" need to be converted or killed. That kind of thing is going to freak a lot of moderate, mainstream Christian people out.

It's totally disgusting, but it brings the disgustingness of this way of thinking into the limelight. The more publicity for this game, the better.

i cannot believe we are even talking about this kind of thing but here it is

im trying to get clear on this myself so im not any perfect source right now but i am starting to THINK that when you posted that the conversion or killing of "moderate mainstream Christians" - that those specific words were actually from the writer of the article (from the gaming site)

in other words i am so hoping that is not a direct quote from the creators

please do correct me if i am wrong because i want to understand all the facts about this horrific "game" before i start spreading the word

on edit: i will look for more information about this tomorrow
its way past my bedtime

take good care renate

All those who have responded have responded well, but you're the first it seems to agree with me.

I say they should market this game everywhere, picket all toy stores, electronic retailers to sell it....the more people see the true face of these evil bastards the better.

the national news.
Honestly i think this is more worry-some than it is idiotic.

www.leftbehindgames.com

They have gone over the deep end for sure.

:grr:

on New York city...
A bit Fruedian one might say.

The only link beteen te two is that one of the guys who sits on the Warren's board is the developer/marketer of the game..

The international director of Mr. Warren's Purpose Driven Church, Mark Carver, is a former investment banker who serves on the Advisory Board of the corporation created in October 2001 to develop and market this game. The creators plan to market their game using the same network marketing techniques that Mr. Warren used to turn The Purpose Driven Life into a commercial success. For example, they plan to distribute their merchandise through pastoral networks, especially mega-churches.


I have no use for the game and little theological use for Warren but the link showing Warren's involvement here is specious. The linkage is worthy of the GOP Spin machine.

I alwo would hardly called Warren a Dominionist. If you are going to criticize Church leaders how about a little research? The link here is nothing but guilt by assoiciation! THE GUY SITS ON AN ADVISORY BOARD OF THE GAME DEVELOPER THAT HARDLY QUALIFIES AS WARREN SUPPORTING THE GAME.

I wish the Church would stand uo and say something about. To shoot this down Church heavyweights will need to step up. Billy Graham and Jummy Carter ought to speak up about it.

This is a wedge issue withing the Church to be sure. My fear is that in doing so.. it would create buzz about the game and more of the Church's right wing would be curious rather than shocked.

Left-behind types aren't particularly attracted to modern technology - and there aren't many of them to begin with (it's a sub-set of the 29%).
I think the fact that these games are created anyway shows there's big money behind the reli-fundie/rapture movement.

AA is a first person shooter funded by our government:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_army
America's Army (also known as AA or Army Game Project) is a tactical multiplayer first-person shooter owned by the U.S. government and released as a global public relations initiative to present an image of the current U.S. Army and help with U.S. Army recruitment.

I wouldn't have known about it otherwise. Does anybody here who has kids (especially boys) in high school know about it?

It's a really clever idea, actually. Diabolical, but clever. If it's true that playing video games numbs kids to violence, what better way to persuade them to join the Army? Looks like fun!! :evilfrown:

(First Person Shooters - FPS games to be precise)

Not the most favorite, because its level of realism makes it hard to master - most gamers go for a bit more arcade style simulation. On the other hand, it's probably the best game in its genre that's for free.

Using Pentagon's 'America's Army' video game as memorial and protest

This was posted by Bigtree yesterday, but the thread sank like a stone.

They couldn't even fund ad space in any major game magazine. (Either that or likely no game magazine was willing to place it since most editors of game magazines seem to lean civil libertarian or slight liberal)

This video game is simply genocide and ethnic cleansing for fun, planting the seed of violent religious hatred i n the minds of impressionable teens. Do they really want a Columbine tragedy motivated by a "religious cleansing of the impure"?

What's next? "Auschwitz, the video game"?

The authors of this game belong in prison.

Of course, so are all those killer games. The hypocrisy is what's mind-blowing, here.

i am told this is an anti christian site. i click on link to see for myself and it isnt working for me. help

the 'spiritual detector', which caused the detectors to reverse the spirituality meter. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused the families of the victims. We are in the middle of a nationwide recall . . ."

What is the reaction of the general public (not just DU)

BTW, the game is sick, and not in a good way.

I have never seen anything so hateful, vile or downright hypocritical in my LIFE.

I just sent this link to my fundy mom. I can't wait to hear what her response is, particularly after I pointed out that this game advocates killing me for my beliefs.

Sick fucks. Seriously, mentally disturbed.

Sub-human Dark Age bastards, pimping their false interpretation of Christianity. They make me sick. These people need to be brought up on charges.