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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:03 AM
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You're telling me Superman could go to jail?
Now that Republicans have the Supreme Court they always wanted then can hide even more stuff.

Supreme Court trims whistleblower rights
5-4 ruling rejects a First Amendment shield
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
STAR-LEDGER WIRE SERVICES

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court made life a bit tougher for government whistleblowers yesterday, saying the First Amendment doesn't protect public employees who disclose waste and fraud as part of their jobs.

In a victory for the Bush administration, the justices said the government's interest in effectively managing operations outweighs the interests that protect employee speech, even in cases where employees may be reporting inefficiencies or wrongdoing.


If Superman was still alive and worked for the government he could be arrested for pointing out wrongdoing? People SUPERMAN COULD BE ARRESTED I SAY!!! We live in a country where even Superman isn't safe fighting wrongdoing.

Now in a Bush White House if they find a stained blue dress you'll never know about it.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:16 AM
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1. Superman does not work for the government...
so this law would not affect him.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:22 AM
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2. but
He used to point out wrongdoing all the time, remember some of them were wacky gubment scientists.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:25 AM
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3. But, as a reporter, he could have whistleblowers contact him.
He could be thrown in jail in order to extract names.....goood luck...


The law would effect him.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:27 AM
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4. Superman ain't stupid.
His Clark Kent persona is not really that great a reporter. All of the Superman related scoops he passes on to Jimmy Olsen. It would be Jimmy who would go to jail, not Superman. :)
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:46 AM
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6. Strawman argument. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:44 AM
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5. Superman is an illegal alien.
He's got a whole lot more to worry about than whistleblowing.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:48 AM
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8. Danm, you are soooo right.
We need a Kryptonite barrier shield for the planet.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:51 AM
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11. well, the Army spent alot of time and effort
trying to kill or capture the Hulk, but Superman never had that problem. He was more like Captain America - the government's golden boy, even though the Hulk was once part of the super-team The Avengers where he fought alongside Captain America.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:50 AM
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13. Wait till they ask for his birth certificate, passport, or green card.
Then there's problems with flying in restricted airspace, x-raying without a permit, and vigilanteism.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 03:03 AM
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14. not gonna happen
remember the end of the first Superman movie - Superman flies Lex Luther and Otis into a prison and tells the warden "we're on the same side". There is no Shawshank Redemption in his world, he and Batman are willing servants of the prison industrial system and the movers and shakers of Gotham City, which happen to include Mr. Bruce Wayne.
Spider man and Luke Cage get in trouble for vigilantism, but DC heroes have all been deputized and are willing servants of the ruling oligarchy.
Also, it just occured to me that Superman's x-ray vision does not make any more sense than his flying. Eyes do not shoot out photons or X-rays, they absorb them. Fine, if Superman's eyes can absorb X-rays as well as photons, in the same way that Marvin the Robot can see by infrared ("Now the world has gone to bed. Darkness won't engulf my head. I can see by infrared. How I hate the night.") Except that there are not enough X-rays in the natural environment for that to work. I suppose if his eyes are very, very sensitive, but then you'd think he'd be blinded by ordinary light. I am afraid it just does not compute.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:47 AM
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7. Screw superman, he can take care of himself
this ruling, however, seems to head towards a replacement of rule of law by rule of power. In other words, if you have power, then rules don't apply to you.
Souter, Stevens, Breyer and Ginsberg dissented.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05slipopinion.html
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:50 AM
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9. But, but, but.... Superman could have turned back time and made them into
small claims court justices (where they belong).
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:50 AM
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10. The INS would go after Superman!
He is an illegal alien!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:06 AM
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12. ...Thud.
That one was painful, man...

Honestly, comics are getting into this sort of thing more and more each year. Sign of the times. Tony Stark/ Iron Man went to Congress in Marvel comics, pleading against a superhero registration program, the sort that DC heroes rebelled against during the 50's in real life. Sign of the times...
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:18 AM
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15. OK Maybe not Superman but
certainly Batman. When Commissioner Gorden fires up the Batlight and Batman shows up that makes him a government employee right?
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:16 AM
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16. Well, he is an illegal alien
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