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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:12 AM
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It's going to cost me 35.00 to vote this year
Thanks to our puke legislature, they passed a poll tax that we couldn't stop.
I have to buy an official state sanctioned birth certificate even though I have one in my files across the room, then I have to buy a drivers license to present when I vote.
I can't get my license without the bc, I was going to just let my drivers license expire, I don't drive very much these days, but, I'm afraid that if I try to use an expired license when I vote I'll be handed a provisional ballot that won't be counted.
So, in a little while I'll go to our county health dept. hand over 15.00 for a bc, then next month lay out another 20.00 for my license, these goddamned bastards, dirty damn sonsobitches. It's supposed to be easy to vote in a participatory democracy, instead I and every Missourian who wants too must jump through hoops to speak our mind, goddamn worthless sons o bitches.
I'd rather dip my damn finger in purple ink to prove I'm not committing vote fraud.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:15 AM
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1. Holy shit.
Well, let's hope disgruntled Repukes won't want to part with their beloved after-tax earnings to vote for one of their own.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:16 AM
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2. Anything they can do to disenfranchise voters.
Make sure when you do vote, you vote against all the SOB's that passed this ridiculous law.

I keep waiting for Bush and the Repuke fascists in Congress to pass a law that only certain people on their "approved" list can vote. You can be sure there won't be any democrats listed on it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:17 AM
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3. I don't blame you for being angry, catmandu57. And just think
of all the people who aren't aware of these new rules-come voting time it will be too late for them, and those that won't be able to afford to make the additional effort.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:19 AM
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4. They see that they are going to loose in 2006...
so the are starting to tax and make voting difficult.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:20 AM
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5. Unconstitutional
To me this looks like they are privatizing the vote itself... pay to play Republican Fascism.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:25 AM
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7. Agreed
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:30 AM
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10. I know it will be challenged and found unconstitutional
It's one of those things that someone will have to be denied their voting rights because they didn't have an id, by then though it may be too late, they may have stolen yet another election.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:21 AM
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6. They did away with straight ticket voting as well
I oftened did just that took my ballot marked the donkey dumped it into the box and left, now I've got to go down the ballot and mark everyone.
The devil has had us by the throat here, but, the tide is turning that's why they threw out these roadblocks.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:29 AM
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8. There have been reports...
...that people trying to register as Dems were turned away, but folks who said they were republicans were ushered right in.

Maybe new registrant should be encoursged to do so as a republican, then, after the election change their party?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:30 AM
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9. really? Where did you hear of these reports?
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:48 AM
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12. Running scared?
You bet they are? They will pull out every trick in the hat to stop the vote. This has been their way since 2000. But they do have the Diebold trick to play with.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:46 AM
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11. I do believe...
the SCOTUS ruled poll taxes illegal and Congress made a law prohibiting it in the Voters rights act. We use to have that in Tx but it was abolished due to laws. Get with ACLU because that law is illegal and one of the GOP's old tricks to disenfranchise voters.

Correct me if I am wrong folks but I remember this from my childhood and my Mom's comments about not being able to afford to vote.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:56 AM
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16. Check this out.
poll tax, a capital tax levied equally on every adult in the community. Although no longer a significant source of revenue for any major country, the poll tax did provide large sums for many governments until well into the 1800s. The tax has long been attacked as being an unfair burden upon those less able to pay. In the United States, the poll tax has been connected with voting rights. Poll taxes enacted in Southern states between 1889 and 1910 had the effect of disenfranchising many blacks as well as poor whites, because payment of the tax was a prerequisite for voting. By the 1940s some of these taxes had been abolished, and in 1964 the 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution disallowed the poll tax as a prerequisite for voting in federal elections. In 1966 this prohibition was extended to all elections by the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled that such a tax violated the “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. In 1990, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of Great Britain introduced a poll tax with exemptions for people with low incomes or disabilities. The measure was extremely unpopular and played a role in her replacement as prime minister later that year.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0839551.html
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Cleetus Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:50 AM
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13. Ahhh, Jeez
Charging to vote? Isn't this unconstitutional? (we already know the Constitution is toilet paper to chimpco)
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:55 AM
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14. Won't that stop alot of double voting repukes?
Those who vote at the address of each of their mansion residence.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:55 AM
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15. Has there been a court challenge yet? I would think a local
chapter of ADA or ACLU could sue for a temporary injunction blocking implementation of the rule while its constitutionality or lack thereof is litigated.

BTW: I grew up on a small farm in SW Missouri (Lamar). Haven't been back there in 29 years, except to visit. Walmart wiped out the local business district (small stores built in a square around the county courthouse).
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:56 AM
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17. sounds like a throw back to the Poll tax
Remember it was a $2 charge to be able to vote, it in essence was a hardship on blacks and the poor that could not afford it. Here we go again, this will affect many!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:06 AM
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18. Here's your info
A starting point...just a challenge can keep them from enforcing it until it is heard by the courts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_v._Virginia_Board_of_Elections

In Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, 383 U.S. 663 (1966), Virginia's poll tax was found to be unconstitutional under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The case was filed by Virginia resident Annie E. Harper. After being dismissed by a district court, the case went to the United States Supreme Court, where it was argued on January 25, 1966. The case was decided on March 24, 1966, with the court ruling 6-3 in favor of Ms. Harper. The court noted that “a state violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution whenever it makes the affluence of the voter or payment of any fee an electoral standard. Voter qualifications have no relation to wealth.”

This ruling reversed two prior decisions by the court, Breedlove v. Suttles in 1937 and Butler v. Thompson in 1951, which supported poll taxes.

The voting rightsact may cover this. The GOP must be desperate to drag out this old chesnut.


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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:19 AM
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19. That's because Missouri Republicans have that stuff
and the Democrats especially in urban St. Louis and KC don't.

Bill Clinton said Democrats win when people think. I think Democrats win when people vote. Republicans don't want you to vote. They are the only political party in America with a strategy to win by suppressing voter turnout. Dems, Greens, Independents, and Libertarians add voters, Repubs subtract.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:25 AM
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20. Missouri doesn't have a state ID card for non-drivers?
although- i just checked, and in illinois, the state ID costs $20, but a driver's liscense only costs $10- that seems pretty backwards, considering there's no testing expense on the state's part for an ID.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:05 PM
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21. Yes we do
but, if I need an id I just as well renew my drivers license, there may come a time when I have to drive like it or not.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:15 PM
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22. I checked, the ID is free
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 12:26 PM by dadsblacksheep
if you were born before 1941, you're exempt--but like you said, you'll get a provisional ballot.

The IDs are free of charge, but I don't know if they will require your birth certificate or not.

This little gem of an idea will cost the state between 4 and 22 million dollars. Genius idea, especially when baby blunt hacked Medicare to pieces.

I hear your frustration, and I'm sorry.
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