What Am I Doing Here At DU, Shouting Out A Window To The Deaf?

I get it. Maureen Dowd in her commentary in this morning's New York Times gets it. DU's do too, I'm sure, so why the lack of response to my posting yesterday? Maybe late afternoon Saturday is a bad time to post and expect responses. I posted comments in Latest Breaking News, General Discussion, and the Framing Issue group and got only one response to one of the burning issues of our time. The issue? The fact that, as reported in the NYT yesterday, that Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, responding to the apparent slaughter of Iraqi civilians by American troops, accused our men and women in uniform of attacking innocent civilians on a regular basis. "They crush them with their vehicles and kill them just on suspicion," said Maliki. He also spoke of kicking out American Troops to improve life for Iraqis.

Last night on the Leher news hour, Bo Bo (aka, David Brooks) gave us the conservative spin on this. He said, to the effect, that it is wonderful that our troops are being accused of being war criminals by the Premier of Iraq. Why? Because, ejaculated, Bo Bo, this proves that Iraq is a sovereign nation with a democracy that is working. Sure. This beefy, masculine talk is coming from a Prime Minister who owes his existence to the deaths, decapitations, and maiming of U.S. troops. This America bashing, grandstanding jerk owes his very life and existence to our troops. This so-called "Iraqi Government" would collapse without our support.

As Maureen Dowd writes, "Before the war, America railed against the Iraqi leader for slaughtering innocent Iraqis. Now the Iraqi leader is railing against America for slaughtering innocent Iraqis. " Here is my posting of yesterday, for those of you who were at the local watering holes while I was laboring in the Bush Bashing Vineyards!:

THOUGHTS ON IRAQI PREMIER'S ATTACK ON AMERICAN TROOPS

Our mother-fixated Commander-In-Chief's Oedipal Adventure into the Islamic Fundamentalist mined lands of the Arabian deserts has blown up in his alcohol-pickled face. This morning's New York Times headline reads, "PREMIER ACCUSES U.S. OF ATTACKING CIVILIANS IN IRAQ." The report states that Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq lashed out at the American military yesterday, denouncing what he characterized as habitual attacks by troops against Iraq Civilians.

The Times reports that "In his comments, Mr. Maliki said violence against civilians has become a 'daily phenomenon ' by troops in the American led coalition who 'do not respect the Iraqi people.' "

Now, this is a regime totally dependent upon U.S. military forces to keep some semblance of order in a country in the throes of anarchy. Mr. Maliki depends on U.S. might for his very existence! Oh, Where Have All The Flowers Gone!?
Are not Mr. Maliki and friends the very ones whom the Bush Administration proclaimed would throw roses at the military boots of the troops of the American Empire as they ended their march across desert sands and into Baghdad?

Oh well, as that great American folk hero, Don Rumstud, has said, "democracy is messy." And doesn't he have it right! Indeed the madcap exploits of Rummie, Junior and the Dark Prince Cheney, in Iraq, have created a very messy situation in the sands of Mesopotamian . Remember the purple fingers of the Iraqi voters? Recall how Rummie, Junior and the Dark Prince said that the election vindicated the Empire's invasion and occupation, that Iraq would soon be the shining democratic city on the hill, beaming hope throughout the dark Islamic World?

What a fine mess you've gotten us into now boys! Instead of democracy, we have death squads, gangs that would put the Crips to shame, and Al Qaeda all over the country. Worse, the Iraqi politicians and government departments have their own militias, instead of supporting a unified Iraqi national military! And now Junior's God Inspired Oedipal excursion, carried out by our brave men and women in uniform,. have all been urinated upon by a Premier that should be Junior's puppet. Mr. Maliki's statements amount to tarring all of our troops as war criminals.

This is an outrage that only a group of mindless fanatics in Washington, D.C. could tolerate. One wonders how the Premier's statement will be spun by the administration's spin doctors and pimps and whores at Fox News.

Obviously, the way to support our troops, maligned and hated by the government of a that they fought for, and were maimed and killed to establish, is to bring them home now. Any other course would be dishonorable. I'm wondering if the American people know what the word 'honor' means anymore. There damn well better be a collective outrage about this one!

I wouldn't take it personally. There's a lot of outrage, but it's distributed rather than concentrated, and that distribution is quite uneven.

I wish Republicans didn't throw good warm bodies after bad. They wouldn't throw good money after bad, but somehow that's just fine with soldiers' lives because the alternative is the appearance of weakness. (re: your 'honor' point at the end)

If you want to engage the people concerned about this issue, perhaps, rather than starting a new thread, you incorporate your comments into an existing one. That way you might get more feedback, by reaching out to your "target audience."

I'd hardly agree with the OP's assertion that people here are deaf, simply because they didn't respond to his thread.

But I pay attention to what goes on around me anyway.
http://www.deafnotdumb.homestead.com/index.html

I know. It's so weird because I read only this morning that the egregiously guilty USA military personnel responsible for killing civilians were simply found not guilty and completely let off the hook.

I'm thinking, well, that's how it is for anyone in BushInc who has enlisted in this (un)holy war. Even the conservative/theocratic/neoconic and corporocratic press-ho's spin the bejeezus out of all this horror in order to make it look good, with unctious, pseudo-patriotic warm-fuzzy rhetoric.

The spin has even gone so far as to saying that this war -could have been- so good and great. The only goal is to take up air and spin-space and use that unctious fleischeresque tone and glowing American rahrah language.

I guess it's working, too... because Bush is still in office, we're still at war, and the politicians and soldiers are still acting like war criminals.

Sue

good observation about calls for us to leave by Bush's junta leaders.

I've noticed that on every subject. I don't know if that means most people access DU from work, or if they just party every weekend...or both.

As others have said lots of others are talking about it so it is a subject we care about. I don't know why but for some reason newer posters often don't get many replies. I ran into the same problem when I was newer here and misread a lack of response for lack of care about my issue, the drug war. Turned out a lot of people cared, they just didn't know what to say or do about it, or were suspicious because I was new in some cases.

Give it some time and keep poking at it, as people get used to you and you get into the swing of things here you'll get more responses.

"pre-emptive" neocon$ chao$ profiteering plot$ the Iraqi leader should fabricate secret plans to invade and occupy 'murka now: "Before the war, America railed against the Iraqi leader for slaughtering innocent Iraqis. Now the Iraqi leader is railing against America for slaughtering innocent Iraqis."
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Welcome to DU. :thumbsup:

p.s.: (Sorry if I can't read and reply to all good posts on
DU cuz there are a lot and I have limited access time.)

Actually, many thousands of us read through the postings and, since there are so many on the same subject, don't respond to every one. On many issues, if not most, everything that needs be said has been said, often by someone with greater eloquence, and rather than do a mindless, limblah "ditto," simply nod their heads and don't burn up electrons needlessly by posting yet another repetition.
BTW, welcome to DU--we have been waiting for you! Glad you could come.

As for myself, a particularly well worded post, or an unusual point of view or different take will often provoke a response, but there are so many posts that are whining or self aggrandizing and that don't really merit a discussion.

I've been here a long time, and post articles almost exclusively, some of which get quite a bit of response. But when I post some comments of my own, even if I think them important, or original, they almost always sink like a stone. Responses to posts vary as to the ability of the subject line to grab attention, the time of day, the day of the week (Saturday afternoon IS a slow time), the traffic on the site, the author, etc.

Your post is excellent, however, as several have now recognized. So don't give up, keep writing, and keep trying!

I don't know how I would react over there.

the most i ever got was 17...by the way i did read your post. summertime there is a drop off in replies cause people are doing stuff and just pop in to see what is happening. right now i`m on break from my afternoon doing stuff...it`s 81 degrees and i should be outside...

that he didn't really mean what he was stating... it's a language thingy...

and people keep on dissin her right and left. :grr:

DINO Senators like Hillary Clinton don't and won't make a stand to get out now because then they would have to admit their part in this godforsaken unholy hell of a mess and none of em can admit to that now can they?! :mad:

There is not one scintilla of honor in this massacre they are calling "a war". :puke:

We are doing terrible things. We were in teh streets against the war before it even officially began. Now it's just how do we get these people out of power. While in power they will kill and maim and exploit.
hence more focus on elections, adn trying to protect the next one. That is how these people get in...