Is it what the anti-immigration people here want? Expulse a 19 year old

that has been brought here by his parents 7 years ago (which law did he break - he was 12), has been following the rules and has succeeded.

What is wrong here?



http://news.bostonherald.com/immigration/view.bg?articleid=142325

to this situation. If the system was functioning at all, then they would've been removed for overstaying their visa soon after their visa expired instead of dropping off the radar...for seven years. Now we have this situation. Given the failures, just let Rodas stay.

The pragmatic solution seems to be this:

Get the borders secured first. Put more border patrol agents and flying drones up and down the border. Secure the ports and airports, and put more drones out over the water to fight drug smugglers and human traffickers who try to come in on ship.

Punish the employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants to suppress wages. Make them pay fines and include possible jail time if the violations are systemic and blatent.

Set up a guest worker program for illegal immigrants who are already here and for those who want to come here. Extend labor protections to these workers to shield them from exploitative business practices. If they want to be full US citizens, then they should be put in line along with everyone else. Get some smart people together to find ways to fight the red tape when applying for citizenship.

In my frank opinion, the federal government won't do this because the corporatists don't want to pay a fair day's wage for a fair day's labor, so nobody's gonna listen to me anyway.

lawyer hired by my father's former employer whose expertise was not immigration law, I turned 21 while my parents' green card petition was processing, without the lawyer notifying then-INS that I was turning 21 (21 is the age by which 'children' can no longer be included in green card applications with their parents). That resulted in me having basically three choices: (1) to remain in the U.S. unlawfully until I either got married or got a green card (about 10-12 years later); (2) to remain a student until I could get a visa or got married; (3) to return to my home country, to which I had few ties.

I chose to become (actually, stay) a student, paying exhorbitant tuition rates, so that I would not jeopardize my future immigration. While the choice of 'becoming illegal' was very appetizing and low cost, I didn't feel it was right and even then I was aware that the repercussions of being in the U.S. unlawfully would be much worse than waiting a few more years and doing things by the book.

In this case, parents who knowingly subject their kids to a lifetime of problems such as the one described above are just as neglectful and culpable as those who leave their kids in a hot car in the midst of summer. It is irresponsible and selfish; parents are basically punishing their children for the parents' own (in my opinion) disrespect of the laws.

Life is full of difficult choices; the student in the above incident will need to decide what to do. Life is also not fair or just; we have to live with the decisions that we make and, in some instances, with those that our parents made.

anti-immigration. I know some DUers are concerned about illegal immigrants, but the majority of people who posts here acknowledge that immigrants are the backbone of the US. Now illegals are something all together different.

If you are addressing those DUers who are concerned about the impact illegal immigration is having on the US economy, then I can honestly say I am one of those.

Now how is this 19 year old man being so abused? He will get a hearing (How would his country of origin treat an illegal immigrant?) The worse that will happen to him is he will be returned to Guatemala. If he is returned to his country of origin, he can apply for a visa or other legal documentation to return to the US (as you indicate, it wasn't his crime). Hundreds of thousands of US citizens have done it successfully, proudly and legally. It is too bad that the sins of the father are visited upon the son, but he must have known that eventually the law was going to catch up with him and he should have taken actions to make himself legal.

because I doubt native americans gave colons any authorization to conquer their lands.

So let the sins of our ancestors fall on us.

(And there are people who are anti-immigrants here. It is not PC to say so, but they very quickly slip from an anti-illegal immigration to an anti-immigration speech).

of groups of Native Americans do we give this country back to? Since the country has become civilized and the treaties and agreements between countries have set these borders we've honored them. There was no border to Native Americans between Canada/US/Mexico. Having open borders will put an economic load on this country that we can not sustain. Even giving amnesty to 11 million who are allowed to bring their families here is an economic strain we can not sustain.

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who has been in this country since he was 12 and has probably no links in his native country does not appear like a sign of civilization IMHO.

Compassion does not seem very high here, sadly. As for the 11 millions people, they are in this country already and we are not going to expulse them. So, either they come in the open. begin to be employed, pay charges and income taxes, and begin to have some rights, or they stay here clandestinely and are exploited more, which is no help to anybody but their employers.

You want to do something concerning immigration. Call your congresspeople and tell them to make REAL penalties against people who hire illegals. The rest is just pandering.

and told them that exact thing so we argree on that. You cry for the case of one 19 YO? What about all the children of all the Americans whose wages have been brought down because of illegal immigration? What about the fact that their parents can't give them a better life because their pay is less or they've lost their jobs completely? For every 19 YO with a human story you find for me I can probably find 2 human stories of children that have been directly hurt by illegal immigration.

the #1 problem BUT I can't condone someone doing something illegal because a carrot was hanging in front of them. Illegal is illegal is illegal. Nice talking to you, gotta get some work done now. :hi:

Since the country has become civilized

When would that have been, exactly?

are. They need a real overhaul. The only solution to problems like this tends to be to make them more complicated - the DREAM Act purports to solve cases like this, but it still has a bunch of numbers in it, for example, have to be here seven years, so this girl would make it but someone still in high school would not.

They are full of technicalities now. For example, an alien "likely to become a public charge" is inadmissible, but instead of using common sense to determine that, now it depends on how much the petitioner makes.

So in other words if a US citizen woman married a husband who would support her, the alien husband could not come to the US, even if able bodied, if the wife didn't make at least a certain amount of money defined by the federal government as allegedly enough to prevent him from becoming a public charge.

It's arbitrary and stupid. Parente doesn't know what she is talking about, besides, why isn't she more worried about speeders and drunk drivers? (Mostly US citizens). People who play that card are suspect to worry about illegal immigrants, IMO.