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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:12 AM
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A reminder about the al-Zarqawi psy-ops and who the "audience" is
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 09:13 AM by Atman
Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi
Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq's Stability

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 10, 2006; Page A01

The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The documents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.

For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890.html

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:16 AM
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1. K&R.
Dead or what, we're being played like a guitar.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:17 AM
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2. Mire the truth in bullshit and the bullshit becomes the news
eventually, all people remember is the bullshit, so it becomes the "truth"

Fact: Iraq had NOTHING to do with the events of September 11, 2001

Yet....



"The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."


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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:29 AM
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35. Yep.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:21 AM
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3. Kicked and Recommended
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:22 AM
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4. More effective on the freeptoids than on the intended audience.
Disbelief in Iraqi hamlet where Zarqawi was killed (residents skeptical)

"I don't know anything about Abu Musab or anyone else being here," said a teenager who declined to give his name, inspecting blankets amid crushed concrete.

"The Americans have a habit of bombing places and then claiming Zarqawi or others were there."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2328166

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:40 AM
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6. I think the freeptoids ARE the audience
they're the ones who usually fall for it (from a safe distance of course).
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:49 AM
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8. Oh, sorry.
The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

I saw the word "leaflets" on the first read-through and thought of previous efforts to drop leaflets over there to get the message out. Yeah, the freeptoids are really the only ones it's working on. There's a significant chunk of our population that can't even name the vice-president. Maybe they should have let Zarqawi compete on American Idol before they took him out. Then Joe Average would pay attention.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:09 AM
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:34 AM
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5. Kick
:kick:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:40 AM
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7. Kicked and recommended.
It seems that they are "catapulting the propaganda" again, and sadly, people are rallying about this news -- be he a real person or not -- like it will have some positive affect on the War on a Concept... Opps. I mean, the War on Terra'. :eyes:

Thanks for posting this.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:18 AM
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9. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:52 AM
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16. .
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:20 AM
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10. thanks for posting. k&r
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:21 AM
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11. ummm....I thought it was illegal to use propoganda
particularly when you have official documents as evidence of it. :shrug:

Must be another one of those signing statements or executive orders that slipped under the radar to make it all okey-dokey.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:28 AM
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12. Thank you for this
I'm using this in a complaint I'm sending to our CBC, telling them to knock off this "huge accomplishment" news.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:29 AM
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13. Did they check the corpse for freezer burn?
They may have killed him a few months ago and kept him in a freezer somewhere to drag out when needed to prop up Bushco's poll numbers. As long as he was in the freezer, it was a perfect time to wage their psy-ops campaign to pump up his importance. Just more of the same campaign that anoints every dead Iraqi as a #3 guy in Al Qaeda.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:30 AM
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14. K&R - never saw this before..IMPORTANT read on a day like this...
email it around I say...
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:35 AM
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15. Wonder how the Post will cover this tomorrow?
:sarcasm:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:55 AM
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17. "U.S. Home Audience" says....
Pppfffflllttt!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:17 AM
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18. Please keep this kicked today...(Should be on the homepage)
:hi:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:29 AM
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19. agreed....
This isn't TIN FOIL...it was in the freaking WASHINGTON POST Corporate media RAG.

Who knows what the REAL truth is but it is damn sure stronger than what the Post editors let out.

Wag the Dog, folks....Wag the Dog...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:49 AM
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20. Kick
:kick:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:49 PM
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21. kick
:kick:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:24 PM
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22. Kick
:kick:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:25 PM
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23. Ya gotta build up the importance of the guy you knock off
before knocking him off to pretend that you've actually done something important.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:43 PM
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24. ttt n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:14 PM
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25. Hmmmm...

The dead guy looks a lot like the guy they showed on TV... sometimes. At other times, they seemed to show an entirely different guy? They did not always look the same to me? Perhaps it is just me? But I do believe one of the guys they showed on TV is the one they killed? Was he Zarqawi? Well, they said he was? Why shouldn't we believe it?

I do believe Zarqawi was used for propaganda purposes, just as the author above pointed out that "The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:29 PM
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26. K & R ... important info
do you agree?
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:51 PM
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27. K & R
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:25 PM
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28. K & R !
again...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:44 PM
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29. Kick & R for the TRUTH!!!
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:50 PM
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30. another kick for evening folks
:kick:
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:09 PM
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31. K & R aussi
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:07 PM
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32. Kick
:kick:
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:27 PM
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33. kick
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:28 AM
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34. overnight kick
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:58 AM
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36. The Iraqis were also an important audience.
Neocons are all about killing several birds with every 500 lb bomb.

From: http://www.medialens.org/board

Burying embarrassing news, the Zarqawi way?

There should be mass celebration today in Iraq, and in the press, and by mongers everywhere, for today was the day that Iraq's new Prime Minister Nouri Maliki finally filled the three vacant ministerial posts in his new, and now complete, government. By sheer coincidence this heartening story has been blasted off the front page by the announcement, on the same day, of the killing of the terrorist Zarqawi, which took place yesterday.

Then again, looking at the newly appointed ministers, perhaps it wasn't so unfortunate:

Defense Minister
Abdul Qadir Obeidi - one of Saddam Hussein's generals

Interior Minister
Jawad al-Bulani, an aide to the Governing Council from the Iraqi Hizbollah party

National Security Minister
Shirwan Waili - a former military officer under Saddam Hussein


*****

Here's how the prospects of appointing these guys looked two days ago: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/14756538.htm

The delay in forming this government has sparked the worst chaos in Baghdad since Saddam Hussein fell. So delegates were eager for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to keep his pledge to name the ministers of interior and defense. Those ministers are essential to restoring some security to Iraq. Suddenly a buzz rippled through the hall. The session had been canceled. Squabbles among fellow Shiites over who should get the ministries had prevented Maliki from keeping his promise. That day painted a stark picture of the challenges confronting this national unity government, on which Iraqi and U.S. hopes hang. Rather than bring Iraqis together, this government has reflected Iraq's fragmentation. The situation may be salvaged, but it will take determined leadership from a handful of key Iraqi politicians, as well as from the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad.

Maliki tried from the start to act like a leader. He promised a new plan to secure Baghdad and flew to the key oil city of Basra to try to halt wars between Shiite militias and gangs. He made the pledge to name the ministers. But Iraq's new constitution keeps the prime minister impossibly weak - a reaction to the Hussein dictatorship. And the Iraqi political culture ties him in knots.

...

This system has made many Iraqis sour on democracy quickly. They are hungry for strong leadership. Over and over, I've heard Iraqis say Hussein could have restored order in two weeks. This is why it is so crucial for Maliki to be able to act as a national leader who stands above the interests of sectarian parties. ... It is unclear how or if that can be done. But the prospects for Iraq and for U.S. troop withdrawals depend on whether Maliki can lead.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:00 AM
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37. Propaganda is exactly what it is
thanks, I'm glad to see not everyone here has "succumbed".
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:08 AM
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39. Kick for the morning crew!
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:28 AM
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40. It should be clear to anyone
who's been following Iraq.

That the insurgency is made up of 97% Iraqi nationalists, of those , most are Sunni, but there are also shites, especially in the south, they hate the
poms occupying Basra. These insurgents want the US gone(as in , thanks for taking care of Saddam for us, now get the hell out).

Zarqawi and his ilk aren't insurgents, they are actually counter-insurgents, and if you dig deep enough you'll come to the overstanding they are there as a creation of British M16 and other intel agencies of which they are under contract to stir things up in Iraq and give justification to the foreign occupation.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:22 PM
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43. And it looks as tho they'll now be receiving $25 million to continue...
"their work". This is building up even better than Iran-Contra!
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:52 AM
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41. Remember this former CIA Analyst who Knew about Zawqawi?
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 11:08 AM by DianaForRussFeingold
:hi::patriot:Ray McGovern confronts Rumsfeld about his lies concerning Zawqawi and Iraq. :eyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1FTmuhynaw&search=Ray%20McGovern%20CIA%20Rumsfeld%20lie :blush: The US invasion of Iraq was a "tremendous gift" to Osama bin Laden and a major setback in the struggle against al-Qaeda, according to a CIA terrorism expert who has written a scathing account of the conduct of the US "war on terror".

In an interview with AFP, the author of Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror blasted the efforts of successive US governments and the US intelligence community in fighting what he describes as a global Islamic insurgency.


"Anonymous," as he is known, painted a dismal picture of the situation in Iraq, a "very bleak" outlook for Afghanistan and advocated debate about US policies which he claimed are providing a fertile recruiting ground for al-Qaeda in the Muslim world.

A senior CIA analyst, "Anonymous" has been widely identified as the head of the bin Laden unit at the Central Intelligence Agency's Counter-terrorist Centre from 1996 to 1999. He was allowed to write the book on condition he not reveal his identity. http://au.news.yahoo.com/040808/2/q8lp.html :kick:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:09 AM
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42. Kick
:kick:
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