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Casandra Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:42 PM
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Is everyone convinced?
Is everyone convinced that Al-Zarqawi is really dead? (this time or any of the other times).. after having 2 500 lb bombs dropped on him, I find he looks remarkable. (whomever it is in the picture) I am NOT convinced and that's my opinion..
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:44 PM
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1. He's dead
I do wonder how he wasn't vaporized, but I have no doubts he is dead, this time.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:10 PM
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13. Wake up! He is not! This will be fleshed out but this is all scripted.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:47 PM
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2. Yeah, he's dead...
every other time we've said we've gotten him, we haven't produced a body. As for the state of his body, all I've seen so far is pictures of his head, so I don't know what shape his body was in. :shrug:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:47 PM
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3. Shitty make up job if you ask me
...oh damn I forgot "THEY" are watching.

I really meant he's dead thanks to the persistence & dedication of our President George W. Bush and our allies in the war on terror.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:03 PM
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4. I'm still skeptical
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:04 PM
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6. If he "stays dead" for a week or two, I'll believe....
... rather like the jobs numbers - I wanna wait and see the "revised" numbers.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:07 PM
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10. He could even be in one of those prisons outside the U.S.
I can't seem to shake my skepticism.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:04 PM
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5. Why not turn this post into a poll and see? nt
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:05 PM
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7. No. This government and the media lies daily.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:07 PM
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8. Doesn't matter as another guy will take his place as America's
most hated in Iraq.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:07 PM
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9. Of course he is dead. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a CT nut.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:11 PM
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14. Not again! A CT nut?
:rofl::rofl: your post(s) sounds a lot like "you're either with us or against us"
Hmmmmmmm, where have I heard that before?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:08 PM
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11. Dead Would Be The Way To Bet, Ma'am
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:09 PM
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12. Dead as a doornail. NT
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:13 PM
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15. Why a 'doornail'? I've heard that (is it a simile?) all my life but
can't imagine how it ever got coined. Was there a time when doornails were alive?
;-)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:18 PM
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16. Ask and ye shall receive — this is why:
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dea1.htm

This is an ancient expression: we have a reference to this dating back to 1350, and it also appears in the fourteenth-century work The Vision of Piers Plowman and in Shakespeare’s Henry IV. Another expression, of rather later date, is as dead as a herring, because most people only saw herrings when they were long dead and preserved; there are other similes with the same meaning, such as dead as mutton, or dead as a stone.

But why particularly a doornail, rather than just any old nail? Could it be because of the repetition of sounds, and the much better rhythm of the phrase compared with the version without door? Almost certainly the euphony has caused the phrase to survive longer than the alternatives I’ve quoted. But could there something special about a doornail?

The usual reason given is that a doornail was one of the heavy studded nails on the outside of a medieval door, or possibly that the phrase refers to the particularly big one on which the knocker rested. A doornail, because of its size and probable antiquity, would seem dead enough for any proverb; the one on which the knocker sat might be thought particularly dead because of the number of times it had been knocked on the head.

But William and Mary Morris, in The Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins, quote a correspondent who points out that it could come from a standard term in carpentry. If you hammer a nail through a piece of timber and then flatten the end over on the inside so it can’t be removed again (a technique called clinching), the nail is said to be dead, because you can’t use it again. Doornails would very probably have been subjected to this treatment to give extra strength in the years before screws were available. So they were dead because they’d been clinched. It sounds plausible, but whether it’s right or not we will probably never know.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:19 PM
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17. This is sort of like asking me if I believe
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 03:20 PM by LibDemAlways
Santa Claus is dead or alive. People are killed everyday in Iraq. Someone is in the photo, but who he is and how he died (if he's indeed dead) I have no way of knowing. I certainly don't trust the Bush Crime Family to tell me the truth - ever.

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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:34 PM
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18. Not my 84-year-old Grandma
who said, "How do they know it's him? It seems like, if it were an air strike, there wouldn't be much left of him!"
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:37 PM
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19. I'm still not convinced he was ever a real person to begin with...
:shrug:
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:40 PM
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21. If he is dead........
he has been frozen for years. I am sure his replacement is just getting cold.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:39 PM
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20. Well heck, would they lie?
Surely we can believe our own government and media?
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