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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:15 AM
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Republicans are threatening to sue TV stations that run MoveOn ads
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 11:02 AM by Mr_Spock
I got this email today...

Dear MoveOn member,

As part of our big plan to win the election we've been running TV ads in key districts around the country. Yesterday I got news that a TV station in Virginia has refused us the right to air our newest ad that focuses on Iraq. They won't even return our phone calls.

It smelled fishy so we looked into it. Sure enough, the Republican Party has been threatening to sue TV stations that run our ads. That's not all. Two of the senior executives at the station—including one of the guys who makes the decision about running ads—actually donated to the Republican's campaign!

We want to show that playing dirty doesn't pay. Our plan is to INCREASE the size and length of the ad buy on other stations in the district.
...


They are using this as a call for more donations so they can run more adds on competing stations - FYI. I chose not to post the link to their donation page.

Edit: I just donated to Move On - they seem as organized as anyone in their ad campaigns and we need to be attacking these sleazy Republicans starting now. Time is running out - we cannot wait until the last minute to push our cause IMHO.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:16 AM
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1. Thank you for posting this - I think we do need to push back -
Republican bullying and corporate cronyism have gone far, far, far enough!
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:19 AM
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22. They should be painted as anti-democracy and anti-free speech
in other words, they are leaning fascists.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:19 AM
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2. Trying to find it on google...they did this in 2004
if I remember...looking...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:19 AM
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3. Somebody needs to push back HARD!
Sue the damned stations NOW.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:22 AM
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4. Well, that tips it!
They recently asked me to become a sustaining member with a regular monthly donation. I think I will.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:27 AM
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5. Oh, they'll do ANYTHING to
Squelch the oppostition. Thankfully, MoveOn is there to make sure they get the Blowback.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:33 AM
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6. Sue for what?
I'm at a loss to figure out what basis there might possibly be for a lawsuit.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:35 AM
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7. One doesn't have to have a winnable case..
... to create havoc with a lawsuit. So long as it isn't egregious enough to get summarily dismissed, the sued party still has to hire counsel and bend over.

Kerry should have sued the ASSES off of the swiftboat crew.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:57 AM
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19. So why don't we let them use some of their money on frivolous
lawsuits? What could we sue them for?
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:36 AM
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9. me too
and I can't figure it out.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:41 AM
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12. Don't really need one.
As the victim of an absolutely ridiculous frivolous lawsuit (eventually dropped), I know from painful experience there doesn't have to be much substance for some lawyers to be bought to blow smoke.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 01:40 PM
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27. It is happening here in Virginia Beach VA
Cox Cable pulled the ads. They got a letter from Thelma Drake's lawyer asking them to stop running the ads and they did. We found out that the execs. at the cable station have contributed to Drake's campaign. It's a big mess being played out in our local newspaper. The paper, The Virginian Pilot, had an editorial comparing MoveOn to Michael Moore lefty wackos. This is what we are up against here. Visit pilotonline.com and write them some letters.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:43 PM
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29. Thanks for the info
Sounds like you have to deal with some real jerks down there.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:36 AM
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8. Can Move On sue the Rs for being harmed by their intimidation
of the market they need access too? RICO, anyone? I'm not a lawyer and I don't play on teevee, but would this be a possibity? It seems to me that this is a conspiracy to extort and manipulate a market.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:38 AM
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11. Only if
they are verifiably harmed. (I think)
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:47 AM
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16. There's a Freedom of Speech issue here
that I think Move-On could press.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
25. True,
there might be.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:43 AM
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13. If that's how they want to spend their money they could.
Sueing is very very easy if you've got the right resources and don't give a damn.

Please don't get me wrong. I have no quibble with our legal system and do see real value in civil suits. However, any system wille ventually have someone take advantage of it.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 01:42 PM
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28. We've been told that the cable company did nothing illegal
Its a privately owned company. Doesn't use public airwaves.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:37 AM
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10. What a bunch of crybabys.
If they can't cheat, they cant' win.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:43 AM
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14. Well, here's a link to the donation page
...for MoveOn.org, that is:
https://political.moveon.org/donate/donate.html

Thanks for letting us know about yet another Republican Dirty Trick. Why is it they're so afraid to compete on a level playing field? Or even a playing field that's only tilted 45 degrees in their favor?? :think: Could it be they can't win on the merits of their arguments and policies?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:46 AM
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15. Thanks, here's the rest of the email FYI...
If we create an economic incentive against playing dirty it can help make sure the playing field is fair across the country. We can do that when we raise $500,000 and keep the ads on TV for two weeks longer. And, we have a special new TV ad about Iraq.

The new ad uses the "Caught Red Handed" theme that has worked so well. It talks about how much money members of Congress are taking from defense contractors in Iraq at the same time our troops don't have enough body armor.

Some people say that Democrats should avoid the Iraq debate during the election. We think that's dead wrong but we need your help to show that's true.

We've tested these ads, and we know they produce a punch with voters—even among people who don't yet support leaving Iraq. (You can view the whole ad on the contribution page.)

To prove that Iraq is important to focus on during the election we hired a top political polling firm to investigate the opinions of voters in the top 68 "swing" districts—two-thirds of these districts are represented by Republicans.

Here is what we found:

The war is by far the most important issue to voters in these districts right now.
By wide margins these voters think the war was a mistake and not worth it. People are angry about the war.
A discussion about Iraq during the campaign increases support for the Democrat.
A Democrat who takes a firm stand for getting out of Iraq does better than a Democrat who takes a wishy-washy position—even in the face of Republican attacks like, "cut and run."
Republicans are vulnerable to all sorts of attacks—including their blind support for Bush's policy of never-ending war.
Voters are universally angry about how defense contractors have been put ahead of our troops and how priorities here at home have been neglected.
These results are paradigm-shifting news but not surprising. Every poll out there shows anger about the war. Voters are ready to hold Republicans accountable for letting Bush get away with everything—especially Iraq. Will you help keep these ads on the air with a $25 contribution?

https://political.moveon.org/donate/fight.html?id=8037-3949571-AIFgfQqaio1BwIL4Fqh2ZA&t=4

To win in November we need to put Iraq in front of the voters. So far MoveOn is the only organization that will do that in these elections. That's why we can't leave these elections in the hands of the Democrats alone.

With your support we can do what the Democrats won't yet: make 2006 a year of accountability for Republicans on Iraq. If we can show this works then Democrats and others will follow in our footsteps—boldly speaking out about the mess in Iraq.

The best way to bring our troops home is to show consequences for politicians who want to follow Bush on Iraq. This ad plays double duty by helping bring the troops home and win the election. We can do good and do well.

Help us keep going. Can you contribute $25 or more?

https://political.moveon.org/donate/fight.html?id=8037-3949571-AIFgfQqaio1BwIL4Fqh2ZA&t=5

Can we count you in? We're going to need thousands of MoveOn members to step forward and make this commitment.

Thanks for all you do.

–Tom, Wes, Justin, Rosalyn and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Wednesday, June 14th, 2006


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:47 AM
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17. Link to view the ad and to DONATE to MoveOn.org
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 10:48 AM by IanDB1
Fight Back: Contribute to Iraq Ad

Let's put Iraq in front of the voters and make sure Republicans don't get away with dirty tricks. Please contribute and help us reach our $500,000 goal. When we meet our goal we can send a signal that we won't back down and we won't be censored. The tools are there to win and a victory in November is within reach.

https://political.moveon.org/donate/fight.html


Video: Watch the NEW Ads



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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:48 AM
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18. "Wah! Wah! The Dems are trying to even the playing field! Wah! Waaaah!"
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:41 PM
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24. How DARE they make Republicans look less than divine!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:05 AM
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20. If this starts a trend, maybe MoveOn ought to sue all the
stations than run any swiftboat style attack ads against our candidates. It's something to think about.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:17 AM
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21. "Frivoulous lawsuits" anyone?? nt
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:05 PM
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23. Well, I decided to send them a donation...
Now is the time to send your donations in - I am hedging my bets and am being very generous this year - we need to win and money buys airtime...
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 01:31 PM
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26. These Republicans need to be challenged on this
Keep up the good work Move On.
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