A caller on AAR said Schumer' would support liberman if Lamont won

the primary, and liberman went independent. Is that true?

and see what they say

Ask him why the DSCC would so much as CONSIDER supporting a non-Democrat over a Democrat.

And... and.. and...

ok, ok, ok. It's your phone call.

You may wanna read some of the blogs on the matter, though, for background.

but when I called his office, they said they knew nothing about it

So I have no idea

.... if you're interested... The info's out there...

Clearly an alum of the Clinton School Of Bamboozlement.

I don't think that's what he said.

He said he wasn't ruling anything out.



http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/06/post_14.html

... out...

It's quite clear that he has no problem in principle supporting an Independent Lieberman OVER A MEMBER OF HIS OWN PARTY.

That needs to be fixed, IMMEDIATELY, imo.

Party unity isn't the summum bonum, but it is a part of a good whole. Democratic party organizations supporting non-Democrats when there are strong Democrats available is completely asinine.

I think making this an issue before the primary hurts Lamont.

By all means continue to force the Indy issue with Joementum, but an internal Dem war between the grass root and establishment shouldn't start based on what ifs.

He started it by being gw's favorite Democrat.
He started it by having a piddling 71% progressive voting record.
He started it by being a worse Democrat than several republicans.
He started it by refusing to support the eventual Democratic nominee simpliciter.
He started it by marshalling those in favor of incumbency over progressive values (e.g. Schumer) to shill for him.

... it's up to those of us who want reponsive progressive candidates in power to WIN it.

And "war" is a truthiness narrative term. It's nothing more than cleaning house.


EDIT: forgot the last "he started it" item the first time 'round.

I just think starting a fight with schumer and the dscc over a what if will back fire on Lamont.

If Lamont wins and schumer pulls this crap then game on, but before then a battle might make CT voters fear a senator without any clout to best represent their state.

Remember this is ALL about CT voters no matter how much the rest of the country hates Joe.

I'm not sure how else to get the point across.

You keep suggesting that OTHER people are starting it. They aren't.

Lieberman's trying to literally steal the heart of the Democratic Party. He started it.

It's something of a red herring of course, as the truly important thing is who WINS it. But nevertheles - history should not be re-written. Holy joe started it.

But Joe didn't ask schumer the question.

The fight I'm talking about is grass roots vs DSCC. How did Joe start that fight, and do you think that is a fight worth fighting before the primary?

If so what positives do you see coming out of it?

"I just think starting a fight with schumer..."

That's explicitly talking about SOMEONE OTHER THAN JOE "starting" something.

That's EXACTLY what is false.

Joe didn't ask Schumer the question, but Joe arranged for Schumer to answer as he did - which is FAR worse.

I think all fights for the party and its ideals are worth fighting ANY time. When a bully picks on you, are you well-advised to tell him "hey, I'm busy right now - could we do this after Science? Thanks!"

Not.

Would I rather not have this fight at all? Of course. I'd rather there not be bullies too. But this fight was chosen for us, just like the bully chose the kid. The choices are to win or lose - not reschedule.

http://lamontblog.blogspot.com/2006/06/schumer-to-ct-dems-drop-dead.html

Schumer To CT Dems: "DROP DEAD"
Giving a big middle finger to Connecticut Democrats, Chuck Schumer said today that the DSCC would not necessarily support the Democratic candidate for Senate in November.

The DSCC is now officially just an incumbent protection racket. It has nothing to do with any party.

I don't think Chuck really understands what he would be getting himself and the party into if he were to follow through with this.

Link embedded in the article : http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/06/post_14.html

Some Democrats strangely want a Democrat running for Senator. Not a Republican calling himself a Democrat. Admittedly, Joe is on the right side on most issues, but when he lets his allegience to Israel overcome common sense, as he has with the war, he is a total ass.

Lieberman would probably win, even if he runs as an independent.

Seniority and "bringing home the bacon" has as much to do with general elections as ideology, unfortunately.

You deliver to YOUR base. Or else. That means they should run on their own performances setting good Congressional examples that can't be seen as poor by reasonable intelligent voters. Lieberman has a very poor performance and needs to be ousted for it. If anyone else wants behave liek that too, we'll replace you too. No more moving to the Center, we need to balance the rightward policies with some serious hard left corrections.