Freepers complain and gripe about no-knock search ruling

I just found all this tragically amusing since it was "their" judges who called this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1650013/posts

"So if cops perform a no knock raid (and don't identify themselves verbally on their way in) on the wrong house and the homeowner defends himself thinking his life is in danger and in the process kill one or two of them but survives himself would he be forced to stand trial?"

"That's really sweet coming from Mr. Scalia. Don't worry, you can go to liberal lawyers and after three years of lawsuits you might get some money. Maybe. Sounds like he's rubbing it in our faces."

"A lot of people, on both sides of the badge, are probably going to die as a result of this."

"Scalia hates the 4th Amendment with a passion and would strike the whole thing down if he could, and would even cite foreign law to do it."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649860/posts

"If the police don't announce themselves, they leave themselves with no legal protection against righfully being shot and killed by the residents of the abode as they break and enter. The residents would be able to successfully argue self defense against unknown intruders, with reasonable justification to assume that the unknown, unannounced entrants had harmful intent."

"This decision is not conservative...a true conservative on the bench would protect individual rights and the rights of the people to be safe and secure in their homes. No knock home invasions are extremely dangerous for both the police and the homeowner...and when mistakes are made as they often are, innocent people die.

Alito and the others are traitors to we the people and our constitutionally guaranteed protections."

come November . . .

they only want them there for only two reasons: gays and abortions.

Amendments anyway, so now we are getting it. How can even repubs not get what is going on. You are right, they got stuck on gays, god and abortion.

...you have nothing to worry about". Otherwise known as screw everyone else until it hits close to home and then scream like hell.

They listen to our phone calls. Watch our email. Watch you at work with cameras . Watch you in public places.

Why would you and your ilk be outraged at the direction youve taken this country with one more invasion?

I appreciate it! :toast:

"...Alito and the others are traitors to we the people and our constitutionally guaranteed protections."

Well, just what do the Freeps think we've been trying to tell them for a decade or so now?

:sarcasm:

Hummm sound familiar? *coughNSA *coughSpying

MZr7

expanded eminent domain earlier this year. I disagreed with those judges then, and I disagree with these judges now. Both of the decisions go against the rights of the average citizen, ruling instead in favor of business and the encroaching police state.

Freeps LOVE that word! :D

Could you cut and paste a little of what you are referring to? I personally don't want to give more "ad revenue" hits to FR than those that our researchers and "spies" already do.

To: Steve_Seattle
I just realized that in my last post you might have thought I was referring to crooks as citizens with jobs. That's not the case. I'm saying that hurdles for the police in their admittedly valuable work, should never be used as an excuse to weaken BOR protections for suspects, because the occasional honest citizen will inevitably fall into the same situation. Nobody held a gun to their head and forced them to go through the police academy. We, the citizens, their superiors. shouldn't be expected to give up Constitutional protections just because those protections make the cops' job harder. The BOR was there when they decided to become cops. A free society is what they're SUPPOSED to be trying to defend, not an occupational hazard.

Oh now government works for the people. Funny they didn't think that yesterday.

I love how when someone mentioned that their guns vs police they all went nuts. See rights do matter.

The police wouldn't (spy on you / search you / torture you) unless they had good reason, right?

And what's with this fear of guns?

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. And only bad people kill good people.

After all, my gun has killed one less person that Laura Bush's car.

and I call the cops... then the cops don't have to knock?

But... but... what if they drop dead from a heart attack?

Now they dont hafta knock before invading your space? They can also pull you over in your car without any reason now and they listen to your phone calls. WTF is going on here?

kill your dog

molest your wife

set your carpet on fire with flash-bang grenades and kill your baby

all in the name of officer safety. Pigs are more important than people, even on DU--haven't you seen the threads that come up whenever an officer pumps a few rounds into some poor shmuck wielding a plastic fork?

will enjoy exercising all this new-found power in 2008.

Especially when the courts have to defend the legitimacy of the raid on Pat Robertson's and Jerry Falwell's cult compounds.

Yeah, the Repukes will compare it to Waco... but let them whine.

The erosion of the rights of the accused. The 4th Ammendment really took a big hit with those guys and looks like the new court is taking up where Rehnquist left off.

Sad to say that no one will ever win an election campaigning on the rights of the accused. Won't happen.

Mz Pip
:dem:

something to hide or something?

like one of their "leaders" (some idiot cowardly congressman, can't remember who) said, in effect, he'd rather lose a little freedom that be killed by the Big Bad Terrorists--who would have invaded us like a horde of barbarians, raped, looted, & pillaged, impaled our heads on poles as warnings outside the city gates, and made us all submit to the will of Allah by now if King George hadn't sent his serfs--er, "knights" out on his Crusades.

Or maybe they have 12-clip magazines with a Class B permit, when their state law says they can only have a 9-clip magazine without a Class A Permit?

Those little technicalities can get you in trouble.

Not to mention whatever Junior may have downloaded for his iPod.

Or perhaps Daddy (Or Junior?) accidentally downloaded kiddy porn while legitimately searching for regular pictures of vanilla sexual acts? Or by opening the wrong email?

Maybe they "borrowed" some Viagra or some Ambien from a friend, and keep a few of the pills in the night stand?

Maybe they have some "home-made fireworks" in the basement?

Maybe they bought something from a vendor on the sidewalk that "just fell off the truck?"

Maybe they have pirated movie DVDs?

Or maybe those "wrong-numbers" from foreign-sounding people that keep calling are really Al Quaeda operatives, and now their phone number is listed as part of a "terrorist network" and being monitored.

Someone might buy a pre-paid Tracfone, program it with the phone numbers of Republican donors, and just use it to call them and say things like, "It is too hot to have the wedding."

someone comes through their door and they shoot to kill and it is a police officer they now can be tried with special circumstances and get their own death penalty. They feel they should not have to face charges while protecting their homes. They are outraged. :rofl:

It's because of their fanatacism that we are in most of this mess to begin with. TS.

Where's Malkin on this?

But hey, it's such a blast to make fun of them...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Not that this is funny, because it really isn't, but it's sure nice to watch the dead awaken. How's your medicine tasting now, guys and gals? LOL

they were too stupid to realize they were having their civil rights stolen from them by those wonderful conservative Supreme Court Justices.

Hmmmm.... Remind me again freepers, who cast the deciding vote on this? And who nominated that guy?

Oh, but Teddy Kennedy was so MEAN to Mrs. Alito!!!!:sarcasm:

is a cell next to us in the death camps....HAHHAHAHA

:nopity: :nopity:

Yup, it was "Kid Strip-search" Scalito.

You slimy bastards voted for it, now live with it.

have been working so hard for, and now they don't like the truth of it????

YOU WANTED IT THIS WAY, FREEPERS! NOW SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

There are always stupid, hateful, easily manipulated losers that will back authoritarians because they think they're somehow attached to that authoritarian leader's power. They always find out too late that they're not part of the in-crowd. Dumbasses.

Up or down vote! Up or down vote! Happy now?

doors!

If you don't have anything to hide, then leave your damned doors wide open, you damned Freeper cry babys!

Edit... Lets just call it the BIG GOVERNMENT OPEN DOOR POLICY!

"true conservative"

Why?

Because conservatism is a lie.

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I can imagine Scalia and Scalito voting in lockstep, considering Alito is like Mini Me to Alito.

Out of curiousity, how did Roberts vote?

It's the 21st century gang, not the age of sanskrit.

when they supported The Patriot Act. Then they supported Gen. Hayden, who doesn't even KNOW the 4th Amendment, despite his oath to defend and protect the Constitution.

They supported Domestic Spying!! What Amendment did they think was violated when the whole nation was put under surveillance?

And why do we even bother fighting for THEIR rights, when they are too partisan to realize what they are supporting?

They better all go join the ACLU ~ the only hope left of stopping this Fascism, or at least slowing it down ~

It's fun to watch them whine about losing their rights now, but it's infuriating to think of all the arguments I and others had with freepers over the Patriot Act!

So, freepers, what happened to the old talking point 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear'? :rofl:

Conservatism unchecked will lead to secret police sneaking into bedrooms of gay couples, transporting them to prisons in third-world countries, followed by occasional torture, then released x years later after having their memory erased with the magic red light. Hooray!

of our nation's cities.

Hopefully Rummy will have the DOD set up deprograming classes before their discharge. :scared:

I know you thought it was just us "libs" who were going to have our constitutional rights torn up, and you were fine with that since you're a bunch of fascist fucking traitors. But nope- it's your rights, too. Surprise!

to stop it. If only we had one more judge like Sandra

"This decision is not conservative...a true conservative on the bench would protect individual rights and the rights of the people to be safe and secure in their homes.


What he means is "A true conservative would protect the rights of conservatives like us while completely obliterating everybody elses' rights."




Where is all of their "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about" bravado now? :shrug:

Courts and lawyers do.

around their necks too!

Let's all pause for a moment of silence, in honor of the death of freedom and liberty in America, thanks to the Bush enablers and their narrow, selfish, little, minds!

"We don't need Freedom And Liberty, no how, we got "Poontang!" Sez the 101st fighting keyboard chickenhawk crew in Freeperville.

Give Bush some more of that "Flexability" that he needs and we'll be the USSofA.

Doesn't that over power any "piece of paper" like the US Constitution? Conservatives wrap themselves in the flag and burn the Constitution while Liberals wrap themselves in the Constitution and burn the flag.

(yeah right - then why knock down the amendment's protections in the first place?)

i love him to death.

I doubt he would break down my door. But suppose some other county or state cop tried that around here? Every neighbor is packing heat, and every neighbor would assume that the person breaking through the door was a meth-head doing a home invasion.

I, for one, when confronted with a person bashing in my door, would, by reflex, shoot in that direction. I am not ending up outlined in police tape on the floor if I can help it. Some cranker beat a guy to death with a clawhammer near here recently. Sure. I'll be more than happy to let someone breaking down my door identify himself first before firing. NOT!!!!!

Now, I have the utmost respect for cops. there are a lot of good ones here in Tennessee. But I'm not going to think it's a cop when my door falls in. Sorry. That's reality. The Supremes may have gotten hard-ons thinking how they are turning back centuries of common law JUST CUZ WE CAN ! LA-DEE-DAH!!!!!!! but they are setting officers up for sure death in many places.

I look for the right to bear arms to fall in the toilet as well. freepers will go ballistic, but this is exactly what they paid for- Fascists, not Americans. Poor little stupid freeps. Didn't know what they had til it was gone.....and their Repuke buddies took it all away.....boohoo.

Suffer with the rest of us you dumbasses :violin: