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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:22 PM
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Brian Unger, Bob Shrum really going after Rove on KO
talking about how unseemly it is for a man like Rove to accuse the dems of being cowardly, cutting an running, while mentioning that he never served

pretty amazing exchange

and NO RW apologist on for "balance"

what a refreshing turn of events

Unger's doing a fantastic job, btw.

I just turned it on three or four minutes ago, so I dunno what was the #5 (first story)

anybody else see this?

worth catching in three and half hours....
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:25 PM
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1. Sounding more and more like Mean Jean Schmidt. One of their finest
moments.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:25 PM
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2. Shrum actually made sense tonight.
I'm shocked. He said Democrats who think the war is wrong need to come out and say it and quit trying to have both sides of the issue. Basically, quit playing politics and start speaking out on what they believe.

And also start hitting back at Rove and other republicans who question the patriotism of Democrats.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:25 PM
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3. I'll watch it later. Your point about not having to deal with a RW shrill
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 07:43 PM by LisaM
is a good one. I just realized, when you said that, how tired I am of listening to RWers belabor their talking points over and over instead of just admitting the truth of an issue or incident.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:30 PM
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9. thanks....that was my point, and you said it more completely
it almost never happens, does it?

and to think that MSNBC has the likes of Scarborough, Carlson, the sea lion, as their other primetime hosts.

when are they going to wise up?

what is Abrams going to do

is he REALLY Eliot Abrams' cousin?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:47 PM
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14. You know what it reminded me of?
I went a number of years without having watched a Michigan game in Ann Arbor - just aaw a number of them on the road, either basketball games in Seattle, or football games on the West Coast - or in a bar. I was always in the minority as far as fans went. I finally got back to Ann Arbor to see a game and the relief of just not having to deal with all those people who hate Michigan was enormous! I'd forgotten what it was like to be in a friendly atmosphere. I think that's why your statement stirred a reaction in me. I look forward to watching it.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:26 PM
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4. I know if I were Republican, I would FEAR Bob Shrum
:rofl:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:03 AM
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20. Yah he's the one
that would be the last one picked if you were choosing up sides. The team captain would say, Oh God, I get Shrum.

What a dufus.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:26 PM
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5. It was a remarkable segment. Schrum made and excellent point about
some politicians being for the Vietnam War in the beginning and then changed their stances. I also loved how it was brought up about Rove never serving in the armed forces! That was great!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:26 PM
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6. It was very good.
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 07:27 PM by ocelot
I wasn't at all impressed with Shrum as a campaign manager, but he really took some good, hard swings at Rove, and also said the Dems shouldn't be afraid to stand up and oppose the war. Unger was excellent, too -- he referred to Rove's practice of sliming opponents as "standard GOP" tactics.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:31 PM
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10. Maybe Shrum has finally opened his eyes - he should NEVER have listened to
Bill "don't bash Bush" Clinton.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:28 PM
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7. I tuned in a few minutes late
and I think #5 was about Snow's comment about 2500 just being a "number" - f**ker is taking crazy pills
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:29 PM
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8. ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1438632
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:32 PM
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12. yeah....well, I started typing before YOU did!
so THERE!

is the wedding still off?

I still have the invites, but haven't licked the envelopes....the glue smells funny
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:48 PM
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15. bwahahahaha
:hi:

only if you promise me a ceremony the likes of Brittney Spears would envy!!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:49 PM
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16. did you hear that Mel Gibson is moving out of his 24 MILLION dollar
Malibu estate, cause Britney moved in next door, and her fans have destroyed his private life?

I think Stephanie Miller talked about it yesterday

pretty funny stuff
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:51 PM
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18. yeah, read about it on DU yesterday
I'm am so sick of Britney.

No talent hack that she is.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:32 PM
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11. This IS good news!
Is one of those two filling in for KO?
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:38 PM
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13. Shrum was always one of the toughest Dem spokesmen
I don't know what happened to him in the Kerry campaign, but I always wished there were more Bob Shrums fronting for Democrats in the media.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:50 PM
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17. I agree
He was always good on Crossfire and those kinds of shows.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:39 AM
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19. Did you catch his remark about Lieberman?
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 01:43 AM by ribrepin
I'm paraphrasing "Joe Lieberman who supports the war with Bush, should stand up for Democrats who's patriotism is being attacked by the right-wing." Good one, Schrum. Time for Joe to prove he's a Democrat.

If old Joementum would have stood up for Democrats instead of attacking their patriotism, maybe he wouldn't have a primary challenge now. Dumb ass Talk Show Joe.

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation's peril"?
Joe Lieberman--2006
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