The House is starting up, last hour of IWR debate and vote, CSPAN1

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He's a great speaker :applause:

"Osama bin Laden - remember him?!"

BAM!

The good one, btw ;)

Praising the military. Got through the whole speech without insulting Murtha this time

if it means anything at all to you guys, please pick up your phones and call your representative, I did yesterday and had a pretty interesting talk with the person or staffer who answered the phone.

And came back and told St Ronnie to get out. And he told Poppy not to go into Somalia

go get them Murtha, the man knows what he is talking about.

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WHAT IS THE MISSION???????????? Why do they keep on saying this???????? God, these guys are so detached.
2,500 dead they want more blood. Geez, I'm pissed.

how disgusting. the soldiers haven't been exposed to any other news except for Rush. now, they're gonna legislate victory in iraq. insane. totally.

they aren't going to let her speak, are they? IS she there to intimidate Murtha?

what a sick bitch she is :puke:

Euwwwwwww, she's so annoying!

hit them hard come on.

Right on!


Now she's talking about the incompetence of Rumsfeld and asks again for his resignation, as she did two years ago. "No one has been held accountable"

I would love to see these guys walk out in protest.

Right on Nancy the American people know it is a lost policy.

Its time to face the facts. They've been WRONG...gross incompetence...asking for rummy's resignation. more than 2500 dead, 18,000 wounded, 400 Billion, defense and intelligence says half the money was wasted...where is accountability. diverted focus from Afghan. war...stay the course is a slogan, not a plan...salute Murtha's courage...the day is over that a vote for this bill means you support troops, if not, you don't. Its an affront to the Am. people.

this should be very interesting when this comes up to vote.

another detached repig on.

I missed her last word, did she make a joke?

she was applauded for what she said. Repigs didn't like that.

After watching hours and hours of this "debate", it's become clear they are just like a criminal who grabs the first person they can take hostage making demands and daring law enforcement to shoot. Tough guys? Not even close!

Meanwhile, the Democrats are the ones fighting FOR the troops. The Democrats are the ones standing in front of the troops taking the pot shots from the criminal Cons. The Democrats are fighting for a solution! Fighting for an end!

That should be one of the rallying slogans! Conservatives are a fearful and cowardly lot!
The Professor

we're threatened by despotic regimes."

OK.... so if democracies aren't a threat, then what are we? Oh yeah, we have a despotic regime...

"We're fighting Islamic extremists wherever they may be."

Guess what? Sadam was a SECULAR Arab. So did we invade Iraq?

How can the pukes disagree with his well thought out common sense about changing direction?

"cutting and running":puke:

they are applauding him

Damn tell them the fucking truth, the armchair warriors are such jerks.

we are fighting them there so we don't have to fight them there, how many times can they say that, shit what BS.

it was a invaded country.

"It's the troops who are fighting, not members of Congress!"

He may be getting ready to mop the floor with somebody's head :evilgrin:

in an air-conditioned building. But WE'RE not fighting this war. It's the TROOPS that are fighting, their families that are sacrificing."

does NOT have Congress behind them.

Jerk.

To: Bahbah

Murtha is back up ... and I'm yelling at the TV

To: Bahbah
Why don't they understand that the threat we face is not limited to Bin Laden and those in his immediate circle? And it is not limited to the Iraqi theater either.

I think they are incapable of thinking into the future and can only think of the moment

That is not how battles are won


To: Mo1
We have got to get that bastard. If we lost Congress, but kicked that traitor out, it would still be a good day.

(My Comment: Murtha is a "traitor." OK, Chickenhawk fool.


To: Pukin Dog

Murtha wants us to be attacked before we respond. That should be a very popular idea after 9/11.

Vote shouldn't be long now

forced on us by terrorists.

Muddying the waters, throwing sand in Americans' eyes.

All of us applaud the election and how and the way Zarqawi was caught; the problem is because of the way we handled this at first, it got out of hand. Fallujah - we put 300K people out of their home. Anbar Province, has no electricity at all.

Reagan changed direction in Beirut, and with his tax cuts. Clinton changed direction on Somalia. We have to be big enough as a country to change direction. If we stay, we are going to pay. And we are going to pay long term.

as they were all talking while Murtha was talking.

who has been sending out lots of literature stating "America is on the wrong path, I have stood up against PResident Bush frequently." I mockingly asked if he was ready to vote against this, as he is standing up against Bush, and if he was ready for the commercials against him if he votes for this War Without End.

is what we disagree over. Do you know who wants us in IRaq?? North Korea, china, Iran, Al Queda, we are using our resources, we have had to lower the standards of the Army, Air Force and Navy people have been transferred to the Army, we now have reenlistment bonuses, we are having real problems.

The troops mission is accomplished. Monthly attacks on oil and gas assets have increased, oil production is less than pre-war levels.

We have 130,000 troops there and it is not going well, we have become the enemy.

happens on the ground. If you voted for the $$ for the troops, you voted to support the troops. This is a vote for a failed policy, and I urge you to vote against it.

Hey Boehner!!! Saddam had NOTHING, ZERO, NADA to do with the bombing of the Cole, 9/11, or any of those other things you listed!

who support a strong national defense policy and those who would choose to retreat.

During the 1990s, we were intimidated, 1st WTC bombing in 1993, June 1996 Saudi Towers bombed, (they all say the same things) 1998, our embassy in Kenya was bombed, 1998 our embassy in Tanzania was bombed, Oct 12 2000 USS Cole, killing 17 sailors. What was our response?? World leaders looked up, looked away, and hoped the problem would go away.

What happened on September 11, 2001- 3000 Americans were killed and in a post-9/11 world, hoping the problem will go away is no longer ok. This is why we are having this vote - to show Americans if we will fight or we will retreat.

(I despise Republicans - lying, evil bastards they are)

Those who say this is a war of choice is nothing more than wrong. (I cannot listen to this liar anymore, sorry)

we need a change, how much plainer can it get.

9/11 how many times can they bring that up.

the enemy, the enemy,
we are the enemy

Bohner get a life what propaganda, this is nothing but a ra ra go get them rally. Shit people are getting killed.

this is sickening absolutely sickening they are nothing back ass kissers for bush. kill those iraqis, more death, more bloodshed, that is their motto. Geez I hate this people.

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If we bring the troops home, the terrorists will follow and kill us all ?

Geeeesh.

"Please don't kill us! I'll sick my GI with a big bomb on your ass! Go get 'em Sgt. Joe! May God be with you." *footsteps heard running in other direction*

Con asks for yeas and nays to be ordered. Putting Dems on record now. Fifteen minute vote.

geez, what a bunch of sick sick people

Cons voting No...ZERO. :grr:

I don't see any action on my 'puter except a vote tally.
I can't read it though, to small.

Help! ;)

Of course, there will be an extra 10 or fifteen now that one Con is voting Nay and one is voting Pres.

13 Dems now! :woohoo: (sarcasm)

DAMMIT!

He's useless as a party whip

2 Cons voting Pres

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

One Dem voting Pres

have lunch now?? (I hate these people....)

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And if you're wondering why I'm watching it, it's because it's the only way a UK DU'er like me can see that vote count without eye strain

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Cons Y 214, N 3, P 2
Dems Y 42, N, 149, P 3

NO SOLIDARITY!! Look at that republican vote tally. They have their marching orders and they follow through. Not our side though. Every last dem up there should be voting NO. Pathetic.

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I think we got a pretty good count here. Look at all the dems who took a risk, considering that the res was couched in WOT language.

and by these posts they voted for it, to prevail, W. again has won. this must stop, now. but again it isn't their asses on the line. and 42 dems said yes, what the hell?