E&P: Latest Ann Coulter Outrage: On Fragging John Murtha

Editor&Publisher: Latest Ann Coulter Outrage: On Fragging John Murtha
By E&P Staff
Published: June 15, 2006

NEW YORK -- With the brief debate over Iraq in Congress producing such acrimony this week that one congressman suggested opponents of the war support al-Qaeda, it should come as no surprise that columnist and author Ann Coulter would top them all.

In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the "World's most intensely private exhibitionist," she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: "The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"

Fragging, which became a well-known expression --and occurence -- during the Vietnam war, means soldiers attempting to kill their own officers for one reason or another.

This was so over the top that conservative Mike Krempasky at RedState.org posted, "I've said before that's its kind of ironic that just about every phrase Stewie from Family Guy uses to describe Lois could easily be applied to Ann Coulter. Well - once again, Ann proves us right." He went on to call her "fragging" remark absolutely "disgusting....there's no excuse - NONE - for the allusion to soldiers who kill other soldiers. It's despicable - and frankly, so is Coulter."...

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That way, they get out into the discourse, it becomes acceptable to mock the 9/11 widows, or wish for the death of a 30 year Marine veteran with whom you have a disagreement, and your hands are clean.

I don't believe any of them; they all support what she says. Even McCain.

Coulter is a godsend for the repugs who are too chickenshit to say the things she says. They give her a pulpit from which to shout her outrageous claims, and then wash their hands of them. Bottom line, what Coulter says is now out there and they look like the good guys.

It's obvious that Coulter has no problem being the bad guy... looks like it pays pretty well.

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Which is why Republicans are subhuman.

They smile and wink and the unthinkable becomes a little more acceptable.

Strange days, indeed.

What is more obscene for children to see a woman's breast or to hear offensive mendacious hate mongering disseminated by organizations like CNN and Fox News who should be held to a minimum standard of responsibility in reporting credible news content?

jackets. All of it, national and local, is crap. Infotainment at the behest of the corporate owners. Keep those Americans numb, dumb, and "entertained." Anything so they don't think.

talked this way in private. They are some of the filthiest, ugliest-mouthed individuals you will EVER meet. Every one of them can say: "Ann speaks for me!"

There's a scene in the movie "The Way We Were" when FDR dies that just begins to touch upon that fact.

Think "Barbara Bush."

or likely anybody else in this whole illegitimate administration, could ever hope to be. I'm sure soldiers would be thinking about fragging Rumsfeld or Cheney or * (or Coulter) long before an actual hero like Murtha.

When the good people here let Coulter work them into spasms of outrage, the right enjoys it. Your goat's been got. Again.

It's free advertising for Coulter who, like every professional controversialist, sees her stock rise when the offended dance to her tune.

Instead of being played so artlessly by this shrew and her fans, Democrats should try a little outrage of their own. Yes, I realize that's the goal of the lifeless Air America; erm...try harder.

as the GOP are rather embarassed at her behavior so I've been told!

She'll disappear... right up until the release of her next book.

This is not the first time she has publicly endorsed terrorist actions, she also called for Clinton's assasination and for the assasination of a Supreme Court justice. She even said that her "only regret" with Timothy McVeigh is that he did not blow up the New York Times building.

Let's make the GOP explained why they bought up so many copies of a book written by a person who has expressed support for Timothy McVeigh. Is it really a surprise she said this about Murtha? It is about time someone arrests her, she is making terroristic threats.

Lets hang her around the GOPs neck.

She shames the Republican Party.

There's thread over there about a party they had with her after her Leno appearance. They love her!
Let's keep reminding people of that!

:popcorn:

She is a disgusting piece of trash. :puke:

After 9/11, several Republicans/conservatives upbraided the Muslim community for not shouting their opposition from the rooftops to the terrorist tactics employed by 19 of their fellows.

Now one of their own is engaging in another form of destructive behavior - spewing venom almost daily at every imagined liberal boogeyman in an attempt to silence critics of the Bush administration through character assassination - yet not one prominent Republican or conservative rises to confront or condemn her despicable invective.

Their silence is deafening.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

they are shown to be the worst hypocrites imaginable. x(

...listen to her crap. I don't believe in my heart of hearts that she even believes this
stuff. She's found a niche, has turned herself into "product" that can be disseminated
to a hungry group of consumers, and is riding it out. The thing I've noticed about her
is that all this garbage seems to roll off her serpent-like tongue entirely too quickly.
Almost like she reherses... Hmmmm..

He wouldn't take her crap, although he wouldn't stoop to calling her names. But he WOULD put her and her cowardly ilk to shame.

gall to be speaking about Murtha like that.

during softball season - put your uniform on and play third base or shut the fuck up.

Murtha would get a lot of miles from that one.

considered statements. No slip of the tongue. She's written and memorized a number of these, and then gave a note to the interviewer with a list of names to ask about.

I'm a writer. These were written before she said them. A writer will know the truth of that; most thinking individuals will as well.

That is, she cannot say it was a slip and be believed by any intelligent person with a concern for even a vestige of truth.

Of course, she has such a weird cultural torque to maintain, and she is of such a nature to want it maintained, that she would probably never call it a mistake.

She is lost.

She has the personality of cackling harpy fishwife at a public hanging, absolutely no talent for writing, and is incapable of thinking logically.

Oh, yeah...I guess that's precisely why she is popular with the right wingers in this country.

...book sales must have dipped.

That's 20 cents a piece! The publishing company probably took the chance that selling it for so cheap would boost it up to #1 to get it attention... then jack the price up once people are talking about it. She is nothing but a media-whore that makes money off of lies, hate mongering, and distortions.

her name remains front and center. And sales go up.

It is all about the money and nothing more. She is of absolutely no value as a person to society. What does she do? Legislate? Govern? Feed the hungry? Heal the sick? Nothing. She is about NOTHING other than making money for herself. And in order to do that, she has to say bizarre things to draw in the circus crowd.

How would Republican "Chicken Hawks" even know what a frag is? :shrug:

Mannie could join up if he's under 42.

is during Fleet week in NY when she takes a couple of sailors home after getting shitface at one of the club's she frequents.

Wonder if any of her "partners" have figured out she's a man. LOL

Notice how she called the Jersey Girls Harpies? What's that about disturbed people projecting what they think of themselves onto other people?

I would so love to have her gender questions solved for all the world to see then we can tell any Wingnut male that has been fantasizing about her the following, "Yes, it does make you GAY if you found "her" attractive." Their reactions would be amazing since that is what every good Republican believes! LOL

And sex with Coulter is like Santorum and his German Sheperd. Hot man on dog action. (With apologies to all innocent animals.)

:hi:Yep,you are right,That's Her! Picture of Harpy from Dictionary

..harsh enough to describe this disgusting excuse for a human being. The worst thing of all is that there is even ONE american listening to her and buying the trash she calls books. It gives me the creeps that i have to share the planet with human beings that would agree with this filthy pig. I really, really, really dont get it........

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

a real oinker

She's the Osama Bin Laden of the right wing handjob set. Let's move her into a cave and she can broadcast her hate for freedom from an Afghan mountainside.

or similar things. I'll admit to being turned off by Johnson's remark, but I'll be damned if I'll turn my venom on him for one such remark while people on the right say shit like this with relative impunity.

book. I don't even bother with her because she's just not worth the time or the effort.

It's true, it's down in the records, just like the men at Malmedy shot the Germans in a horrible war crime is down in the records. :-)

I'm no expert at navigating their site (much more difficult to navigate than DU)

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If not, why not? They would ask Dems if a Dem supporter (not even a politician) said something so vile.

I'm shocked.

"Fragging . . . means soldiers attempting to kill their own officers for one reason or another."

Way I heard it, it's not "for one reason or another." It's because the officer was so monumentally foolhardy or incompetent he would get them all killed otherwise.

...about including Dreamboat Annie in my own retelling of the old "Aristocrats" joke.

I can't post it here, though. Skinner and EarlG would discombobulate me if I tried.

She makes vile comments about the 9/11 widows, and gets two major interviews with Lauer and Leno -- neither of which were particularly hard on her.

Wonder what this will do for her at that network?

Fragging occured when Officers were arrogant and overbearing with the troops....so I was told...Ann reminds us of these traits...

Murtha does not...HE WAS AND STILL IS.... A MAN

Something Bush/Cheney cut and ran away from...Cowards they are.

straight out of ROTC--guys who bought all the bullshit about how we were in Vietnam to prevent the dominoes from falling and save the world from the commies--fighting them there so we wouldn't have to fight them here. Your draftee grunts who were just trying to survive didn't take kindly to that sort of thing.

Who can make these outlandish statements for our side? I want our Democratic Ann Coulter voice to be heard

statements toward the Republican party and not have the Democrats pay the price for it... I want a fight, yep I do....

I want people who aren't afraid to talk tough, but I want absolutely nothing even remotely like Coulter. She is just plain filth, and she endorses terrorism. She has advocated killing Murtha, Bill Clinton, a sitting Supreme Court justice, and she has said her "only regret" with Timothy McVeigh was that he did not blow up the New York Times building instead.

She is an advocate for terrorism, and the Republicans have endorsed her fully. We have NO ONE on our side who advocates terrorism, I want to keep it that way and I want the GOP to explain why they have embraced a person who does.

I want someone like Coulter, but who yells Democratic Talking Points, you know our side of the story.... Good luck on waiting for an explanation from the GOP or even an apology for any of the crass mean things they have said though....

to Coulter. Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy go all out against the Republicans but they are not Ann Coulter.

I perfectly understand the point you are trying to make, I just don't think Ann Coulter is the comparision you want to use. It would be like comparing a charismatic leader for our side to Hitler, it is just not a good comparision.

the nose would help a bit.

would be much more effective. Punching is just violent. Pie-throwing is a form of ridicule, and makes for excellent political theater.

urine filled water balloons?

She just craves attention and ought not to be given any. She's the embarrassing cousin at the party that everybody ignores and feels not worth confronting.

They are all Ann Coulter.

it doesn`t do the conservatives any good by backing her because she alienates to many people and she is personally disgusts them...who`s backing her? those who profit from her appearances.

is there really such an animal :)

They are just very prone to suggestion, not very independant minded, or very set in thier ways (at this point). Even so most of the few that I know have snapped back to reality, and now realize that the GOP is taking the country on a one way trip down a gigantic rabbit hole. Only when you believe that the media is liberal are you truely lost.

Tweety doesn't find her attractive.

life." What she meant was fetus's of course and this comment is one of many that demonstrates her sick hypocrisy.

The attitude of late around here is just to ignore her. :eyes:

I watched that bit on Jay Leno and wish that I never had. We do not improve ourselves by exposure to vile, ignorant rants. She is evil spew and should be ignored.

I say give her all the attention she wants. Here is my reasoning http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2681308&mesg_id=2681308

Some of the horrible comments on here are truly repulsive. Dislike her, hate her, but some of you clearly have no conception- or perhaps care- that your comments become part of the "culture" of this forum.

Are vile comments OK from our side but not from the other? Are vile comments against writers OK but vets and widows not?

It is especially depressing to see such comments phrased as if they were given from "higher ground". Alas.

Coulter has elected to strap a twelve-foot lightning rod to her ass entirely for crass, commercial gain (and, I'm convinced, because she's well aware that her presence on the fascist hate-fringe keeps inching the apparent center of permissable political rhetoric to the right). If we don't respond with a little lightning, she'll feel neglected, and start drooling a lot of green slime. Then she'll eat Alan Colmes. You don't want that to happen, trust me.

should not complain about lightning strikes.

She's just partisan for the sake of being partisan & selling books ...:banghead:

http://www.capdefnet.org/fdprc/contents/fed_cap_off/18_usc_115.htm


18 USC Sec. 115
01/26/98

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 7 - ASSAULT



HEADING

Sec. 115. Influencing, impeding, or retaliating against a Federal official by threatening or injuring a family member



STATUTE

(a)(1) Whoever -

(A) assaults, kidnaps, or murders, or attempts or conspires to kidnap or murder, or threatens to assault, kidnap or murder a member of the immediate family of a United States official, a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official whose killing would be a crime under section 1114 of this title; or

(B) threatens to assault, kidnap, or murder, a United States official, a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official whose killing would be a crime under such section, with intent to impede, intimidate, or interfere with such official, judge, or law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties, or with intent to retaliate against such official, judge, or law enforcement officer on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

(a)(2) Whoever assaults, kidnaps, or murders, or attempts or conspires to kidnap or murder, or threatens to assault, kidnap, or murder, any person who formerly served as a person designated in paragraph (1), or a member of the immediate family of any person who formerly served as a person designated in paragraph (1), with intent to retaliate against such person on account of the performance of official duties during the term of service of such person, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).


(b)(1) An assault in violation of this section shall be punished as provided in section 111 of this title.

(b)(2) A kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, or conspiracy to kidnap in violation of this section shall be punished as provided in section 1201 of this title for the kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, or conspiracy to kidnap of a person described in section 1201(a)(5) of this title.

(b)(3) A murder, attempted murder, or conspiracy to murder in violation of this section shall be punished as provided in sections 1111, 1113, and 1117 of this title.

(b)(4) A threat made in violation of this section shall be punished by a fine under this title or imprisonment for a term of not more than five years, or both, except that imprisonment for a threatened assault shall not exceed three years.

(c) As used in this section, the term -

(1) ''Federal law enforcement officer'' means any officer, agent, or employee of the United States authorized by law or by a Government agency to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of Federal criminal law;

(2) ''immediate family member'' of an individual means -

(A) his spouse, parent, brother or sister, child or person to whom he stands in loco parentis; or

(B) any other person living in his household and related to him by blood or marriage;

(3) ''United States judge'' means any judicial officer of the United States, and includes a justice of the Supreme Court and a United States magistrate; and

(4) ''United States official'' means the President, President-elect, Vice President, Vice President-elect, a Member of Congress, a member-elect of Congress, a member of the executive branch who is the head of a department listed in 5 U.S.C. 101, or the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

(d) This section shall not interfere with the investigative authority of the United States Secret Service, as provided under sections 3056, 871, and 879 of this title.
<snip>

I can understand that we can expect her to rail on liberals and Democrats dishonestly because there will always be conservative propagandists who'll cheat to try to be effective. But she seems to have lost all perspective of whether or not what she will say will help or hurt what she's trying to promote. Maybe that, or maybe she's just so obsessed with coming up with bad things to say that she can't step back and think about the effect they'll have. Her social functioning, even as a radical conservative, seems to be so off now.

Redstate.org is only a redirect and a redstate.com search give no results for anything written by Mike Krempasky. He's listed as a founder but appearantly doesn't post under his own name??????

Anyone got a link to the actual blog entry on redstate??

at the end of the article?

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you are why we invented bludgeoning

Wow, it's not gonna end well for her, is it? :mad:

Coulter is an attention whore of epic proportions. She is riding every outcry from the left all the way to the bank. Please can't we all agree to just ignore this vile harpy and I guarantee you she will just fade away!

Annie Coulter is the voice and face of the Republican party. Annie Coulter is the voice and face of the Republican party. Annie Coulter is the voice and face of the Republican party. Annie Coulter is the voice and face of the Republican party.
Make them deny it. Make Annie (Arthur) prove his/her gender. I want to see genitalia.
And Murtha can walk down any street in America without a body guard. Can Annie or her fuerher say the same?

"Ann Coulter is the face and voice of the Republican party." I've been saying it right in the freepers' (virtual) faces, and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it. The idiots keep posting threads telling us why "Ann Coulter is right," so they set themselves up for it.

Lately a few of them have been trying (halfheartedly) to distance themselves from the Anorexic Ann-drogyne. I intend to make it as difficult for them as possible.

Ha Ha Ha
Its a joke? Right? Right?

Everytime they do a campaign add about a Republican, mann's face should show up.

Just like Ann Coulter"........

I hope Ann has been neutered...one of her every 16,000 years is enough. She belongs in the DELETE FILE

They say you hurt the ones you love the most.

so they paid her to do their dirty work for them. Say shit they wouldn't dare say in public. Cowardice... typical chicken hawks.

to make them look better. The Repub leaders.

I can't imagine she could/would go anywhere these days without some kind of protection contingent, but maybe I'm just being naive.

Anyone been there (or as near as they can stomach) for one of her recent book signings? If so, what's the scene like? Is it harmonious? Is it acrimonious? Are there protests?

I can't imagine that given her latest round of unconscionable statements she could move about too freely without encountering SOME kind of opposition...

And she made a big point of it during her interview with Lou Dobbs a week ago. The "poor, poor pitiful me" routine...and compared herself to those liberal commentators (I think Michael Moore's name came up) who can roam about the country freely.

why SHE needs the security and MM does not, however... Says a lot to me, though!

Yup, Border's Books. In two locations in one store. I asked the guy what was up with that -- "isn't that a bit much for one author? Especially one that's nuts?" His response: "I don't know."

'In an update on the Right Wing News site on Friday, Hawkins commented on the reaction: "Although, I wouldn't have phrased that like Ann did, I would say in her defense that in that quote she didn't say that she wanted to kill Murtha, she'd didn't say that she thought he should be killed, and she didn't say that she thought Murtha should have been fragged. Is that hair splitting?"'

Well the answer is YES, ya dummy! (my apologies to Pinocchio)
I'm so sick of idiots like this guy 'rephrasing, or clarifying perfectly clear statements by folks like Coulter. We need to ignore the clarifier and focus on the initial statement.
Ex:
Me: Why would she make such a statement?
Idiot: She didn't mean it, she clarified later.
Me: Well OK, why would she make such a statement to begin with then?
Idiot: Wiggle, Obfuscate, Lie......

Spelling edit...

...I should be able to call Faux News and say something like...

"Where's Lee Harvey Oswald when we really need him...?"

...and the Secret Service can't do diddly-squat about it because...

(1) I never specifically mentioned the President either by name or position...

(2) I didn't specifically call for anyone's assasination...

(3) I didn't specifically say what Mr Oswald was needed for...

But of course, you'd have to be completely dippy to not understand the reference, or the spirit in which it was made.

Discussing what she says has about as much validity as wondering why Walmart doesn't put a big store on the moon.