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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:27 AM
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Bring U.S. troops home by end of '06 By Sen. John Kerry
Posted on Fri, Jun. 16, 2006

Bring U.S. troops home by end of '06

By Sen. John Kerry

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The confirmation of Iraq's vital cabinet ministers to run the police force and army, coupled with the killing of the brutal terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, are an opportunity to change the course in Iraq - if we seize it.

We know the verdict of our generals: the war cannot be won militarily; the only way forward is a political settlement. We need to listen to Gen. George Casey, the U.S. military commander in Iraq, who argued that our large military presence "feeds the notion of occupation" and "extends the amount of time that it will take for Iraqi security forces to become self-reliant." To make Iraqis self-reliant, we need hard and fast deadlines, not an open-ended commitment of U.S. forces.

Iraqi politicians have proved that they respond only to deadlines - a deadline to transfer authority, and deadlines to hold three elections. It was only the most intense eleventh-hour pressure that pushed aside Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari and brought forward a consensus prime minister. It was only the most intense eleventh-hour pressure that forced the Iraqis to complete their government. That is why we need a deadline now for Iraqis to stand up and fight for their own country.

It is time to announce that our combat troops are coming home in 2006. It is time to set a schedule with the new Iraqi government for the phased withdrawal of U.S. combat forces by the end of the year. Doing so will empower the Iraqi leadership, put Iraqis in the position of running their own country, and undermine support for the insurgency, which is fueled in large measure by the majority of Iraqis who want us to leave their country. Only troops essential to finishing the job of training Iraqi forces should remain. This will put Iraqis in charge - and it will undermine support for the insurgency.

Key to this transition is a long overdue engagement in serious and sustained diplomacy. To give Iraq its best hope for a peaceful future, the administration should convene a summit that includes the leaders of that country, its neighbors, and representatives from the Arab League, NATO, the United Nations and the European Union to forge the comprehensive political solution that is necessary to bring stability to Iraq. Making it clear that America will not stay in Iraq forever pressures the regional players to step up and assume their fair share of the burden.

We will not leave Iraq vulnerable. Under my plan, the United States will maintain an over-the-horizon military presence in the Middle East to fight the war on terror and protect regional security interests. We will finish training Iraqi security forces - and hold the president firm to his word that when Iraqis stand up, we will stand down. So far, the Iraqis have trained 265,600 security forces - just 7,000 shy of the Bush administration's stated goal of 272,566. Where's the standing down?

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http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/14829393.htm
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:32 AM
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1. There's an ethical hinge missing from Bush's war escapades. He forgets,
or never knew in the first place, that the men, women and children, both Iraqi and Coalition, have died because he and his PNAC pals want oil and lots of it.

This is about a hell of a lot of money and a limited amount of oil, and being in the driver's seat to control both.

John Kerry's remarks here couldn't be any more clear and they couldn't be any more to the point.

What Bush et al are doing is fundamentally immoral and Kerry is right to keep up the pressure like this to hold them accountable. If we wait on the press to do it, we'll have to leave notes for our grandkids.

History is going to pay more respectful attention to Kerry's admonishment of George Bush than it is to Bush's spectacularly ill-advised assault on a sovereign nation.

Great post.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:47 AM
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2. Data: Iraqi forces: 265,000 trained. Goal: 272,566.
Page 7:

UNCLASSIFIED
<2.> Transition Iraq to Security Self-Reliance – Iraqi Security
Forces

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Total Trained & Equipped ISF:
~265,600****

Data as of June 7, 2006 (updated bi-weekly by DOD)
* Ministry of Interior Forces: Unauthorized absence personnel are included in these numbers
** Ministry of Defense Forces: Unauthorized absence personnel are not included in these numbers
*** Army numbers include Special Operations Forces and Support Forces
**** Does not include the approximately 144,000 Facilities Protection Service personnel working in 27
ministries

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/67857.pdf



Page 25:

SIZE OF IRAQI SECURITY FORCES ON DUTY
http://www.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index.pdf


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:53 AM
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3. Given those figures, it doesn't seem as if we are only 7,566 ISFs away
from "stability" in Iraq.

With the actual goal nearly met, there are daily bombings and no hint of reliably steady public services and protections. Water. Electricity. Etc.

And NPR reports from last month suggest that the skilled upper middle class is fleeing the country, having assessed that it is a lost cause, or in any case, a place they no longer wish to be a part of or raise their children in.

Bush's war.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:33 PM
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11. This is Kerry holding Bush accountable for his own stats - the media won't
.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:38 PM
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7. I think you are right about history's view.
At least that's something to be optimistic about. There isn't much else these days.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:55 AM
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4. A shame that Kerry's own party has senators LYING about his plan in
concert with the White House talking points.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:04 PM
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6. I am appauled by that. Enabling the repubs is always wrong.
I know of Ford, who else has done this? Oh, I am sure Biden can be added also. Any others. I am going to call or write to them expressing my opinion on helping out the Rebublicans.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:28 PM
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9. The RW talking points are in full effect! n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:02 PM
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5. I am happy to see he is making sure people understand his plan
and defending himself in the process. I also like that this was in Philadelphia's largest newpaper, the Inquire. I wonder if he has sent this to other papers for print.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:30 PM
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10. The media is distorting his plan at every turn - Kerry and Murtha are
going to have to handle alot of this on their own.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 12:18 AM
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12. This is another part being ignored:
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 12:28 AM by ProSense
"feeds the notion of occupation"


The Iraqis want America troops to leave. Their presence is compounding the violence in a country that is now engaged in a civil war as a result of the invasion.

That's not a winnable situation.


edited: title
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 03:15 PM
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8. ...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:56 AM
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13. Why is Congress defying the will of the American people?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:00 AM
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14. Good Question
My Son came home yesterday for 2 weeks leave and then back to Iraq till November.. This is the 2nd deployment. He does not want to go back, he hates it there, but Congress does not care about him, or you, or me.

Let's send Congress to Iraq to fight like Murtha said. It is real easy to sit inside your comfortable air-conditioned offices and make decisions to keep our kids in harms way..

The Iraqis want us out of there, so why are we not leaving???
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:59 AM
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16. I'm afraid election politics may be in play - - Biden and Clinton are
MISCHARACTERIZING Kerry and Murtha's plan to explain their own positions, and that is just wrong.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:01 AM
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15. Kicked and Recommended
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:41 PM
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17. Senate Democrats want vote on Iraq withdrawal plan (Tuesday)

Senate Democrats want vote on Iraq withdrawal plan

By Jeremy Pelofsky
Sun Jun 18, 4:06 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats plan to offer a resolution in the Senate on Tuesday seeking a timetable for a phased withdrawal from Iraq, California Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record) said on Sunday.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060618/pl_nm/iraq_congress_usa_dc_1p
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