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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:50 AM
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Democratic Donors Seeking Young Vote, Frustrated with Dean's effort
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By WILL LESTER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Youth may be wasted on the young but not $3 million. Several deep-pocketed Democratic donors, frustrated with party chairman Howard Dean's effort to attract young voters, are offering up to $3 million in grants to organizations that could persuade those age 18-24 to vote Democratic.

"The party's plans to reach out to young people are incredibly insufficient," said Deborah Rappaport of Redwood, Calif., one of the donors. "If we don't pay attention to them now, we will lose them."

Rappaport planned to announce the plan to award grants on Friday at a convention of liberal activists in Las Vegas. The donors plan to award up to a dozen grants over the next three years that could total $250,000 each to groups or individuals in 12 states. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, North Carolina, Oregon, Tennessee and Washington.

The donors include Rappaport and her husband, high-tech investor Andy Rappaport, and businessmen Jonathan and Peter Lewis.

They cite the results of the 2004 presidential election in which those 18-29 were the only age group to back Democratic nominee John Kerry. The Massachusetts senator won that group 54 percent to 45 percent, according to exit polls.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=125&sid=817107
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:55 AM
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1. self delete.
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 11:56 AM by madfloridian
never mind.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:03 PM
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2. It's really weird they couldn't have done that without making it an attack
What's the pitch? "The Democrats don't care about you, Vote for the Democrats?"

If they'd gone to Dean and said: We have $3 million to spend on youth outreach, and he said NO!, then that would be bad.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 09:43 AM
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17. Exactly Right!
The Democracy Bonds program remains a stroke of genius from Dr. Dean and I remain delighted to support it with my credit card. That being said, even Dr. Dean himself has indicated that we need more money and I know for a fact that he is keenly aware of how important it is to reach out to young adults.

http://www.just6dollars.org
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:12 PM
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3. $3 million would be better invested in public information campaigns
But, noooo, let's smack Dean around while we claim the high road.

:banghead:

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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:12 PM
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4. H Dean
Can anyone tell me why these people are after Dean? It seems to me that supporting dems. at the grassroots level is the way to get us back in the race. In the old days there were local dem. committee people who sponsored get out the vote and registration drives. Whats exactly is wrong with that? I wish these people would stop flaming Dean and give his method a chance, since we haven't done so well with blue state methods. we need to make all the states blue.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:17 PM
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5. Grants
Who will decide who gets the money? who will administer the money? Who will oversee what the money is used for? I could go on and on, but this just sounds a little strange. Do these people, as nice a gesture as it seems to be, have other motives?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:18 PM
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6. No idea why they are going after dean in this
They could simply have said 'here's some money for people to help bring in the vote'. The dig was not needed by them as far as I can tell.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:34 PM
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8. It could be the AP reporter is distorting or misquoting them, too.
We know the AP and most MSM distorts anything about Dems. So...I'm guessing this is the case here.

I've heard of the Rappaports and don't see any reason why if they supported Dean in the past they would make a sniping comment like this.

:shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:46 PM
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10. No, he is right. Deborah Rappaport posted it herself at Huff Post.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:31 PM
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7. Found this article about the Rappaports and their organizations
Apparently, they were big Dean supporters when he ran for the Democratic nomination in 2004. They've obviously got some money and are willing to throw it around promoting progressive activism. So far so good. I've NO idea where this anti-Dean sentiment came from. This article is from November 2005.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/18/PNG66FN7JV1.DTL
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:45 PM
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9. Deborah Rappaport posted at Huff Post on this.
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 01:10 PM by madfloridian
Will have to find it. She was very critical of Dean for trying to reach out to evangelicals, was very snide about it.

She and hubby work with Simon Rosenberg at New Dems Network and NPI.

NPI is their new media alliance.

They are having a convention in DC this month, sounds like to decide our agenda? Who knows. The DLC is meeting in Denver next month to decide...who knows.

http://www.ndn.org/annualmeeting/

There is no excuse for this, and it is meant to harm Dean.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-rappaport/a-gift-to-democrats_b_22632.html

Oops, forgot the NPI link....to founders.
http://www.newpolitics.net/about/foundingteam/

All very odd. I remember the day Dean announced his candidacy for chair, Trippi posted his endorsement of Simon that very moment at Simon's NDN blog.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=86&subid=85&contentid=894

The Democratic Leadership Council (www.DLC.org), a non-profit 501(c)(4) organization founded in 1984 -- the original home and leading edge of the movement. Under the leadership of its founder and chief executive officer, Al From, the DLC seeks to define and galvanize popular political support for a new public philosophy built on progressive ideals, mainstream values, and innovative, nonbureaucratic solutions. (Click here to learn more about the DLC's affiliated think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute, www.ppionline.org.)

The House New Democrat Coalition, a group of 74 moderate, pro-growth members of the House of Representatives working to find mainstream, bipartisan solutions to our nation's problems. The NDC was founded in 1997 by Representatives Cal Dooley (CA), Jim Moran (VA), and Tim Roemer (IN). More About the House NDC

The Senate New Democrat Coalition, a group of 20 moderate, pro-growth members of the United States Senate, founded in the spring of 2000 by Senators Joe Lieberman (CT), Evan Bayh (IN), Mary Laundrieu (LA), John Edwards (NC), John Breaux (LA), Chuck Robb (VA), Blanche Lambert Lincoln (AR), Bob Kerrey (NE) and Bob Graham (FL).

The New Democrat Network (www.ndn.org), a political action committee founded in 1996, which gives financial support to New Democrat candidates and elected officials. The NDN's president and founder is Simon Rosenberg. The NDN is not affiliated with the DLC."

It says it is not affiliated, so it is hard to decipher this.

I am all for helping the young people vote Democratic, but I am VERY concerned that Mrs. Rappaport and husband Andy get to pick who gets the money and who gets the influence over young people. Why not give it to the DNC for the use of the Young or College Democrats?

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:50 PM
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11. Okay....that makes sense then. Support for New Dems=DLC..Push Back
time. The "Powers that Be" determined to kill the "netroots." Only way they are going to get young voters with "money" is to stuff dollars in their back pockets.

Young voters want to see a Dem Party that stand for something and offers an "alternative" to the Bush Bots. When they see that...we will get their vote.

Let the Rappaports sling their money around. We can lose two more elections and the DLC'ers will be perfectly happy. As long as their Corporate Base is satisfied they don't give shit about the average person. :rant:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:51 PM
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12. Didn't Rosenberg run against Dean for the DNC Chair post?
Did the Rappaports support Dean or Rosenberg in that race?

This is NOT what the Democratic Party needs, more "I'm right follow me" divisiveness. :thumbsdown:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:22 PM
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13. I'm so sick of the DLC/New Dem Jackboots efforts to
silence any voices of reform....
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 03:29 PM
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14. If we're just a little more like the republicans.......n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:05 PM
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16. I know "just give up a few "principles" and "chum up" and all will be well
I just can't though. Not after "Selection 2000." It makes me want to :puke: I wish I could learn to be a better "compromiser." Because that's what "they" really want....COMPROMISE....

:-(
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:01 PM
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15. Follow some links on this....stay with me in figuring it out.
This is a set of groups begun by wealthy donors, and appears to go either under the name of Democracy Alliance or New Progressive Coalition, which is the Rappaport group.

Here is the link to the NPC partner's page, on which I recognize a couple of groups started by people who were Dean supporters, so I am still trying to figure why they would crticize Dean's efforts on reaching the young people when he is setting the goal of rebuilding state parties. I am not at all sure what is going on here.

http://www.newprogressivecoalition.com/about/partners

That site led to this article with a few names that rang a bell:

Can Democrats get Smart?

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/08/22/alliance/index.html?pn=1

A couple of snips about one name that bothered me which has been in the news on our blogs lately because he works for corporations which do not want Net Neutrality. Mike McCurry's name caught my eye in this snip:

The effort has already attracted a group of about 80 wealthy donors who hope to eventually raise upward of $200 million for the cause. But their work has so far been kept a close secret. Eight months after forming, the Alliance has almost no public profile. It has yet to hold a press conference or issue a press release. There is nothing on its Web site, and its phone number and address, on Wilson Boulevard in Arlington, Va., are unlisted. The group's new office space remains unadorned, with blank walls in the conference room, and the staff roster counts less than a dozen employees, not including outside consultants like Mike McCurry, one of Bill Clinton's former press secretaries.

Liberal activists are nonetheless abuzz with expectation, noting the firepower of the donors who have already signed up. "They will really be the first significant progressive venture capital organization that I know of," says Jon Cowan, president of Third Way, an upstart think tank, who is hoping for Alliance money. "Nobody does this." Members of the Alliance include billionaires like George Soros and his son Jonathan, former Rockefeller Family Fund president Anne Bartley, San Francisco Bay Area donors Susie and Mark Buell, Hollywood director Rob Reiner, Taco Bell heir Rob McKay (who, full disclosure, is also a member of Salon's board), as well as New York financiers like Steven Gluckstern. "These are not media-hungry people," says one person close to the Alliance. "They are serious doer types."



Please note the Third Way applied for donations, describing itself as an upstart group....it is the Clinton's group, started in the 1990s with Blair and Schroeder. And even more confusingly, this snip shows that they have the same goals for the party as Dean does....rebuilding long term. So who is progressive, whose goals are for us? Who is using big money, and who wants small money.


But this time, they are looking beyond the midterm elections in 2006 or the presidential showdown in 2008. Dozens of the richest people in America have banded together to develop a new, permanent network of progressive organizations that will, they hope, fundamentally alter the political direction of the country. Their idea is to create a sort of venture capital firm for progressive philanthropy, a new organization they call the Democracy Alliance. The Alliance will do very little substantive work itself. Rather it will direct six- and seven-figure donations to those groups -- whether they are think tanks, media outlets, or training programs for young liberal leaders -- that show the most promise.

"The Democrats for a long time have been fixed on the next election or the election after that," says Peter L. Buttenweiser, an heir to the Lehman Brothers securities fortune and one of the Democratic Party's most generous donors. "This is the first concerted effort to build the infrastructure of the progressive party in a way that replicates what the right has been doing for a long time."


Now let me present Mike McCurry who is mentioned above as being part of this group.

After leaving the White House in 1998, McCurry became a partner at Public Strategies Group in Washington, developing communications strategies for corporate and nonprofit clients.

He signed on earlier this year with a coalition of telecommunications companies battling an effort by large Internet companies to get Congress to pass rules that would outlaw any preferential treatment of data over the Internet.

Some phone company executives want to charge extra to guarantee fast and reliable delivery of video and other data-heavy applications.
As word spread of McCurry's role, bloggers started ripping him.
Last month, McCurry ripped back.

"On Net neutrality, I feel like screaming 'puh-leeeze,' " he wrote on the Huffington Post, where he sometimes blogs. "The Internet is not a free public good. It is a bunch of wires and switches and connections and pipes and it is creaky."


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-fi-mccurry5jun05,0,6380163.story?coll=la-headlines-politics


This is all very complicated and confusing. Damn the word progressive. Howard Dean has started using the word "reformer". Let's see how they hijack that.



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