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lupita Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:05 PM
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Need help - Repug co-worker says:
The weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were taken out by the Russians.

I was so stunned, I didn't know what say. I am an idiot.

What would you say?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:06 PM
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1. Two words: Says who?
Once you know who his bullshit source is, you can refute him better
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:07 PM
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4. agreed
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:10 PM
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7. When? How?
Then remind him of the arid climate and the constant monitoring via satellite, monitoring so close it can distinguish between beard shapes.

Remind him that infrared monitoring is part of this.

Then ask him how he feels about the Tooth Fairy.
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:06 PM
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2. Laugh
Just laugh - that's all you can do about a comment like that these days. If he really believes that, he's too far gone to be worth your time.
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lupita Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:08 PM
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6. Actually, that is what happened. I laughed
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:17 PM
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16. I agree , albeit reluctantly. There's only so many hours in the
day and you will never convince someone who is as kooky and ill-informed as this. We must be smart about whom to spend time and energy trying to convince.

As someone older and wiser once told me, "Pick your battles" (meaning not every argument is worth waging, nor every person worth trying to convince).
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:07 PM
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3. Tell him to wipe the Kool Aid stains off of his face
And have a nice tall, refreshing glass of reality.


Or tell him to get his ass back to work.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:08 PM
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5. "You made that up."
"Liar."
"Prove it, show me where it says so."
":rofl:"
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:11 PM
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8. There is no reason that your career won't skyrocket if.................
the people you work with are that stupid.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:19 PM
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19. Ah, but sometimes it's the boss (or senior manager) who is
"that stupid" :) In which case, one would ideally find another job or place of work.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:12 PM
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9. No way to dispute him
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 01:12 PM by kwolf68
He believes it because he wants to. People like this are useless. He doesn't "wonder" if the Russians took them out, he doesn't "question" who may have...he just flat out states they have been taken out by Russia. Typical Conservative ploy...just say something and believe it to be true irrespective of no facts to back up contention.

Yea, WMD that Sadam had, that he didn't use while our military was taking him down. Suuuuuurrrrrrrrrreeee!!!!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:13 PM
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11. Exactly -- "truthiness," as Stephen Colbert would say n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:13 PM
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10. Oh jeepers, not again
tell him/her that they have satellite photos that they proudly displayed of parking lots at different times of the day - where they counted cars and drew conclusions about what the facilities were for.

How the fuck, given this incredible technology, and the fact that we were on this shit like white on rice, did anyone sneak all these weapons out?

Please.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:19 PM
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18. same thing I said at post# 14 n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:39 PM
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26. I know - boy they are the sneakiest aren't they!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:13 PM
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12. Invite him to use Google Earth, type in his home address and hit go
Then, inform him the DOD has MUCH better pictures of EVERYTHING!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:14 PM
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13. Two simple words: Prove it.
But laughing was a pretty good response, too.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:14 PM
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14. THAT IS NOT WHAT DUMBSFELD SAID --- SEE HERE.....
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 01:14 PM by stop the bleeding
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:5h7kiWuSPTkJ:www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/t03302003_t0330sdabcsteph.html+rumsfeld+We+know+where+they+are.+They%27re+in+Tikrit&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.



and then this..


satallites, our eyes in the sky would have seen this - WMD's can't be loaded on the back of Toyota and smuggled across the desert with any amount of efficiency, if WMD's were smuggled out it would have been a grand undertaking with some kind of Red Flags from our eyes in the sky
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:15 PM
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15. Russians wouldn't need it. They have all that old nuclear material
that we were supposed to help them destroy since they no longer have the resources to keep it secure. Our assistance in that project was curtailed, however, under the Bush administration. Feeling safer yet?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:19 PM
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17. The Dingos ate his WMD
I'd say there's about equal evidence for either assertion ...
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:26 PM
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20. Response: Proof please. n/t
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:26 PM
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21. wmd
For what they were supposed to have would have taken hundreds of tractor trailers. How would they have hidden that?????????????
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:28 PM
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22. If the Russians took them...
...why did we go into Iraq?


AValdoux
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:29 PM
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24. now that would border on common sense
remember who you are dealing with.

Great point
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:29 PM
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23. Prove it
Period.

Debate over. You won.

Next?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 01:32 PM
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25. You could just as easily say little green and purple gnomes
hauled them to the magic kingdom on carts pulled by teams of unicorns.

Proving it is an entirely different thing, though...
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:42 PM
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27. The Rushbo-Freeper types would fail any exam based on facts.
The wingnuts have so convinced themselves that truth is spin and spin, truth, that they would be unable to pass a test based solely on established fact.

For example, they'd almost all get this question wrong:

"Was Hitler's National Socialist Party left-wing or right-wing?"

From experience, I know that most Freepers are so aggressively uninformed that they would answer that the Nazis were liberal, not conservative.

That's not just ignorance, that's contrived, deliberate, intentional ignorance -- ignorance that is being promulgated so that it can be manipulated by evil men.

And that's what we're up against.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:47 PM
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28. "Who, Pootie Poo" ?
I would have reminded her that Bush looked Pootie Poo in the eyes and saw his soul. Why would Pootie Poo do that, I would have asked her?
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