KOS: What Really Happened at Countdown

Edited to thank Mr. Olbermann (if this is true)for being a man and accepting responsibility for those in his charge. Imagine that.

:wtf: is wrong with him.

:)

someone stepping up to the plate & owning what happened. :wow:

dg

me..WOW! What a Guy!

What e-mails is this about? Is there a thread somewhere that recaps this story?

up for Keith even before I read what happened. LOL

:shrug:

the emails supposed to be from Keith where he stated Rita Cosby is dumber that a box of rocks.

http://www.nydailynews.com/06-15-2006/news/col/story/426804p-360015c.html

He was forced to apologize yesterday after more of his E-mails found their way to my inbox and exposed the host of MSNBC's "Countdown With Keith Olbermann" as insulting and frequently obscene in an acrimonious exchange with two viewers who taunted him.

Olbermann's antagonists, who asked not to be named, repeatedly claimed in their June 8 E-mails that dead Al Qaeda terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was Olbermann's "hero," prompting the television star to advise: "Hey, save the oxygen for somebody whose brain can use it. Kill yourself."

After I forwarded that and other E-mails to an MSNBC exec, Olbermann wrote: "I apologize to anyone who might take offense at my part of this correspondence. It goes without saying that I should not have replied to these abusive and hateful E-mails, but I wonder how many of us could receive literally hundreds of them questioning our patriotism, religion and ethnic origin, without succumbing to the natural wish to confront such hate?"

Here are some examples of Olbermann "confronting hate":


"Given how far you are from knowing your a- from your elbow about my industry, you couldn't be stupider, wronger, or dumber ..."

"Go - your mother."

"You 'Americans' still watching that evil f- O'Reilly?"
Apparently, they are. Fox News' Bill O'Reilly draws six times the viewership of his 8 p.m. weekday rival.

writing stuff like this to anyone, especially if he is doing so over the signature of a well-known person, he should be fired! Cut the young fool loose, I say!

Brian hasn't seemed like (or performed like) a random plug-in for KO. He's grown into it, and his week got better as it went on, culminating in a top-notch interview of Murtha.

I don't know if this is true, but I would believe it, of both KO and Unger.

K&R

Ed: cuz I'm dumb.

KO would have been more literate and mature than these emails show. Grove just has an axe to grind.

This is easier to believe.

:thumbsup:

They have plenty of loyal repubs to cover his spot. They got rid of Brown, Ashliegh Banfield, I'm missing at least another that did not show the proper respect for the bushies.

and his ratings are better than many of the MSNBC shows in the desired demographic categories.

:evilgrin:

and change yet another paradigm.

(Thinking way outside the box here, but that's where I want to be at the moment.)

That's not a bad idea.

BTW, did you see A. Whitney's signature line? It's a good one.

that still sticks to my craw.

Well, I can't even think of the words to properly express my admiration for a guy - a boss - who would protect his employees like that. Take all the shit himself rather than let an underling get fired, lose pay, insurance, etc.

If it isn't true, and he did write the emails, he's still pretty damn admirable for not passing it off as the work as a staffer (I'm sure there's many who would).

Keith is one-in-a-million and he deserves all the compliments he can get for the quality he produces.

But there is a problem here.

While we will never believe anything but this story (now that we have heard it), KO's enemies will believe it was all a fabrication, designed to get him off the hook. They'll never believe it. The most it's done is poke a possible hole in what they thought was an airtight case against him.

They will still claim that because he apologized in public, he must be guilty; if he can admit that, why can't we? In short, they'll try to make this into his Loofah/Falafel incident, in which nothing can be pinned on him for sure, but for which he will carry the scars forever. That's what they wanted, and that's what they created.

And because we know KO has a temper, the story was, to some extent, believable. It was only the other parts of it that didn't add up, such as the idea that after 25 years in the business he wouldn't know how to deal with crappy feedback, would have no filter between it and him, or would have tons of time to reply. His enemies would believe that with ease...his fans, with more difficulty.

It's a toss-up. The good news is, it all turns out to mean a whole lot of nothing as far as we're concerned, and makes KO more aware of how formidable his enemies are so he's more careful. The bad news is, it gives his enemies an argument they can use against him to make him look terrible and us look like idiots for believing the "farfetched fairytale" described above (just like we don't believe Bill O'Reilly didn't do what he did to Andrea Mackris simply because she accepted the money to drop the charges).

However...there is one last piece of good news...which is that, just as we find it consternating that Bill-O remains on the air despite the Mackris flap, KO's enemies will find it just as consternating that HE remains on the air.

Will some people just throw up their hands and say "A pox on both their houses"? Sadly, yes. Will everyone on both sides go on believing what they want to believe? Yes.

But that was going to happen anyway...right?

The sad news for us is that they still drew blood.

Here's what we get: KO still on the air. Which we already had.

Meanwhile, here's what they get: a scandal they can throw up at us every time they need something to use against KO. Even if it doesn't hold water, they will never believe this "crap" about how he "took a bullet for someone lower on the food chain." Never.

And they'll keep looking for ways to finally do him in.

Of that, we can be sure.

"They" seem to have a better ability to create lots of noise against people like KO. For instance, Ann Coulter is way beyond "evil" and yet very little seems to touch her....she just keeps on going like that Engergizer Bunny and laughs it off. Hopefully KO will move on and not allow ANY swiftboating to occur. The ultra-righties are so down-and-dirty that decent people don't have the tools to fight back!

Are we to believe that in all this time he has never gotten hate mail, and all of a sudden he does, and since he's so new at this, and so terribly naive, he decides to bang out some snappy responses, believing that they will never see the light of day? riiiigghhtt.

by the way...is it really true that O'Reilly does that much better than Keith?