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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:50 AM
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"Cut and Run" Only 3 american wars are longer than Iraq occupation
I was wondering (not being a good history student) how the term "cut and run" actually applies to an ocupation that has lasted 3+ years. What if we're still there after 5 years and then leave? Is that still cutting and running?

How long do american wars typically last, in our short history?

So I went to Infoplease, and I found that most of our wars lasted a year or less, and a few lasted in the neighborhood of 3.

But only 3 lasted longer than Iraq, even if we did cut and run today:

Vietnam 12 years
American Revolution 8 years
WW2 6 years

Civil war 4 years
WW1 4 years
1812 3 years
Korean 3 years
Mexican War 2 years

We're already on par with the civil war, for starters. Was the end of the civil war cutting and running? Who cut and ran? Have we already outlasted WW1? Really? That's what the GOP calls cutting and running?

For a war that is only outlived by the Vietnam war, the American Rvolution, and WW2, why don't we know why we're there? Why don't we have a plan to leave? What would "success" look like, after 3+ years?

The stupid part is, Rumsfeld originally doubted the occupation would last 6 months. So, his first plan was in fact to cut and run. It's on video. We've all seen it.

Why was that a good idea then, and a bad idea, now? The Iraq government has asked us to leave.

3+ years is enough. I say, time to pack up and give these people their country back.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:53 AM
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1. Cut and Run? Yes, the only moral option for an immoral war!

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:55 AM
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2. "Stop loss order" At $5Billion/month even fiscally liberal Repubs cringe
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:57 AM
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3. Some corrections
Actually the US didn't get into WWI until 1917, so that one was only 1 year. US involvement in WWII
wasn't until 1941, so only 4 years, officially that is.

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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:00 PM
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4. Thanks. Like I said, I'm no history student. Puts it all in perspective.
Don't it?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:32 PM
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5. Wow, 10 seasons of Mash for a 3 year war?
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:20 PM
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6. I missed something. Did Rummy really say
that the occupation would only last 6 months?

If so, WOW. Didn't he ever study history? WWII we occupied Germany for 5 years after the war.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:49 PM
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7. Air America radio plays that sound bite all the time. "I doubt 6 months."
They've got Rummy on TV saying it could be 6 days, 6 weeks, I doubt 6 months.

Damn straight.

And our own council on foreign affairs website laid out the details of the civil war it would ignite between the shiia and sunnis.

And even today, Darth Vader said "No one predicted the amount of insurgency."

They lie. They lie. They lie. They lie.
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