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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:41 PM
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Corporate Donors already shifting to the Democrats
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0619-05.htm

Corporate Contributions Shift to the Left
Some companies see Democrats having more sway in Washington after upcoming elections
by Brody Mullins


WASHINGTON - Some big companies are boosting their share of campaign contributions to Democrats this year, a sign that executives may be starting to hedge their political bets after a decade of supporting congressional Republicans.

The shift includes backers of the Republican Party in the insurance, pharmaceuticals and tobacco industries, such as American International Group Inc., Wyeth, and Reynolds American Inc., according to PoliticalMoneyLine, a nonpartisan tracker of campaign contributions.

Most companies say they give political donations to candidates who support their businesses, regardless of party affiliation. But corporations also tend to channel funds to politicians they think will hold power. So any shift in corporate campaign giving toward Democrats could signal that businesses believe Democrats will have more sway in Washington after the 2006 midterm elections or the 2008 presidential contest.

"The reality is beginning to set in here," says Greg Casey, the head of the Business-Industry Political Action Committee, an organization of businesses dedicated to electing pro-industry candidates. Even if Republicans maintain control of Congress after the November election, their majorities in both chambers are expected to shrink. "What you couldn't get done in 2006 will be much more difficult in 2007," Mr. Casey says.


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First PNAC boys then this...
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:44 PM
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1. I wish they could stop corporations from interfering in our government.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:45 PM
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2. Well, you want my opinion?
If we really wanted change badly enough we could have it. We could have made a show of force of small donors. But we are not doing it. Democrats are not willing to put their money where their activist mouths are....and it shows.

We could have enough small donors to run the DNC effectively, and we are choosing not to do so. That is why we have no voice, and the corporations do.

www.democrats.org
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:46 PM
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3. It's not easy to mobilize millions of people
Societies don't move from individual action but collective usually. It's not easy, remember that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:48 PM
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6. Then we lose our chance to try.
We have not openly been given that chance before, we have it now. And we are choosing not to do so.

Our choice. May the corporate games begin all over again.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:49 PM
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7. I agree with you that we SHOULD
But I'm just trying to say: it's not an easy path. It's not just individual laziness. There is no social drive for such a thing just yet -- why do you think these two parties control the elections and mobilize millions of working class people to vote for something that they have no control over? They have massive social influence. We need to build something like that, only much more democratic.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:19 PM
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13. You bet we're not giving money to Dems in general
After watching them sell us out over and over and over- I'm not inclined to give the party (even if Dean is THE CHAIRMAN) and especially the Rahm Emmanuels One nickle.

On the other hand, I'm willing to pony up to specific candidates- or AGAINST certain candidates or to organizations like Moveon, who actually represent me- and won't waste the moeny I send.

If the Dems want the floogates open on the small donations like Dean had- then they need to start standing up for ordinary people- the sources of those donations- and STOP eneablung, legitimizing and even voting for far right policies.

Until then, they can kiss my ass.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:24 PM
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14. Many Dems DON"T want small donors, they will love you for not giving.
If the DNC gets enough small donors, it will take away the power the corporatist Dems have had.

You bet your bippy, as they used to say on Laugh-In.....the corporations much appreciate your not contributing.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:46 PM
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4. The real bosses exerting their control.
Someone remind me how this is a "democracy".
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:47 PM
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5. That's a strong sign that we at DU aren't just wishing the Dems will win,
but the business compunity thinks so too!

Sure, I'd like to see Corp $$ out of politics too, but it's not going to happen any time soon!
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:50 PM
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8. There are a few places where the corporate dollars already lost
For example Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:00 PM
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10. That's true, but VT. is a very small State, and most of it's people
are independant thinkers. Unfortunately, you can't apply that the the rest of the Country!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:50 PM
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9. Big Biz founded this country and will continue to run it regardless of
who occupies the White House.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:04 PM
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11. Sort of. There is a BIG difference on controls of businesses
that run wild! I think we are seeing a repeat of the days of the robber barrons. I am AFRAID the people today won't revolt like they did then!

There were many laws that were passed back then, like Taft Hartley, and anti trust, etc. As far as I know, those laws still exist, but noone is enforcing them now!!!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:07 PM
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12. Yeah, because if they don't,
this type of action, among others, might start occurring in other areas...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=215892

In Northern California's Humboldt County, voters decided by a 55-45 margin that corporations do not have the same rights -- based on the supposed "personhood" of the combines -- as citizens when it comes to participating in local political campaigns.

Until Tuesday in Humboldt County, corporations were able to claim citizenship rights, as they do elsewhere in the United States. In the context of electoral politics, corporations that were not headquartered in the county took advantage of the same rules that allowed individuals who are not residents to make campaign contributions in order to influence local campaigns.

But, with the passage of Measure T, an initiative referendum that was placed on the ballot by Humboldt County residents, voters have signaled that they want out-of-town corporations barred from meddling in local elections. (emphasis mine)


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