O’Reilly’s solution: Run the place like Saddam

We'd have to provide reliable electrical power and consumer fuel supplies, for one thing, and we're still a LONG way from being able to do that.

to run the country. I bet we could do it for a lot less money and lives than we're paying now.

that the neo-cons realize they are doing a worse job of running Iraq than Saddam

(on the other hand, its not funny, to our soldiers and to the Iraqi people)

at how little boys with toys fantasize about the real thing. And his audience is salivating about how manly bill is. I guess we weren't welcomed with flowers after all.

and fight with his 'pen' like he did when he 'saw combat'!!!

OMG, his friggin solution is to run the place like Saddam did?!? (shakes head)

They've had years to get organized!!!
If there were going to be organization while we pulled the strings
it would have happenned long ago.
It's taken 3 years and the Iraqi's haven't learned how to 'stand up'
and we're obviously not successful and teaching them.
Our boys have what, 90 days training, and are sent of to Iraq to teach
them to 'stand up'??
When we get out, then they'll stand up.

You know, the one he promised us.

I haven't seen that, either.

who the last person in human history was that began his leadership by being a ruthless and murderous tyrant, who, upon establishing law and order, transformed himself into a benign and benficient father of the people, full of love and liberal democratic principles. What a MORON.

Torture, killing civilians, murdering innocents..

Tell me whats different?

We don't.

Torture, killing and murdering to maintain stability. The US military is using torture, killing and murdering to maintain chaos.

You just know it'll be good.

Saddam. Maybe they can say that they have rehabilitated him, and after all, we don't have to worry about the sons anymore.

so we can act like him? :wtf: Where's the logic in that????

the bush doctrine says we will kick their ass and take their gas.

who would disobey a 7:00 cerfew! I'm with you Billy.

sincerely,

Beezlebub

What a despicable loudmouth prick he is.

will explain how people can live in a 'free' society and have 'rights' and be under 7PM curfews and warned they will be shot dead? Of course, we all know that 'democracy' is spread at gun point and the occupied will love us, right?

Of course if someone held up an innocent so O'Reilly could punch them out or shoot them we would see he is capable of something.

But let's enter the rational world of cold facts. Saddam set a standard the US was not capable of. First we are foreign troops, with rules and social mores that make cruelty incapable except as a breakdown of military order and US law. We can only destroy ourselves before we get to the same effective level and EVEN THEN, the Iraqis have been there, done that and eventually they believe we must leave. I said this at the beginning before the US ever set foot there. You can't replace Saddam's ruthless domination with our sneakier half measure kind. It is insane to expect it and the results on our own military would be to render it more and more self-defeating, unfit and mentally, morally broken.

But the Bush people as is still under the public radar, DID intend to replace the oppressive regime with the controlled exploitation of "mess", ghetto gang warfare, lawless private guards who CAN with impunity,
selectively replace the secret police in order to insure the weakness and the exploitation as an invading, purposeful infestation. To Bushco, the present "setbacks" can seem bewildering since they are in a way exactly what they wanted, only too much, too incompetent, too costly and too unpopular. This is a big reason why they cannot even think a hint of getting their hand out of the monkey jar trap.

What is or should plain to the military in the lose/lose situation is that they are bleeding and condemned to failure for a win/win regime agenda for whom they are useless assets soon to be shifted into the private sector. Thanks to bombs and toys and economic power, blackmail and extortion there does not have to be working governments or military success. In fact, they plan AGAINST those aims deliberately.

Crazy? They are in charge. They are getting rich. The business model and the perpetual dependency and fear ghetto is expanding. All other truths can bleed to death while they are redefined into lies at will. People hate to give up power and the trip. These crazies are infinitely worse. Dealing with them is something our system of government is proving incapable of doing as well. Nor, on this board would I suggest the easy solution to most of the world's tyrannical ills has any easy final solution where mathematically we are talking about as many villains as you could cram into one sizable Baghdad neighborhood. Easier, cheaper, better for everyone. And it is no more possible for conditioned world civilization to accomplish this than to turn the US Army into fanatical death squads and achieve anything but more suffering and death.

The solution to violence is never violence, progressively more true even as war and reconstruction go their painful routes. Nor can the world abide more fighting fire with fire, matching evil with evil, becoming the enemy you imagine even more than the enemy that is. Today's test of mankind thankfully removes the searing options of murder from history's abysmal gameboard. In the multiple choice answer to survival it is one of the "logical" wrong choices. The Conservative mind seeks models from the past that cannot apply to today. Things change anyway and old models were never much good and declined more rapidly when reapplied. Those who seek to repeat the past "cleverly" or not are doomed to ruin the future and that is about it.

But O'Reilly isn't into solutions, just the pleasure, the cheap bravo talk, the affirmation of lunacy to support his expensive life style.

... tell me again, why did we invade in the first place?

The other fist would be making obscene phone calls and playing with Billy's peepee.

WANKER !

I'm just trying to keep up with the logic here. It wasn't the WMD, it was to liberate the good people of Iraq from an evil dictator. But we need to behave like an evil dictator and kill them indiscriminately. To save them.

until the gov't takes control :crazy:

"Nothing calms an insurgency like indiscriminate killing."

That man is a moron.