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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:31 PM
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I KNEW IT!!! DPW still has the ports!!
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 05:33 PM by TomInTib
Dobbs just reporting on CNN.

I have maintained this position since Day One.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:32 PM
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1. slippery as snot on a doorknob these guys all round the table...
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:35 PM
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2. ...and it's a complete non-issue.
You DO know that a Chinese company "has" the majority of our west-coast ports, don't you?

They provide port management, not port security...and foreign companies have been doing it for decades. It's a created issue.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:41 PM
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6. yup, panama canal too i think...
:shrug: if it's all 'just commerce', maybe we should just sell it all :shrug:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:43 PM
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7. I know it is a non-issue. I never gave a damn.
My point is all the hypocritical chest-thumping that went on at the time.

Fucking Warner coming on the teevee speaking of a 'domestic entity' and all.

I knew they were lying all along.

I don't give a shit who rus anything as long as they run it well.

My family was the operating arm of Brown&Root (KBR) for decades. That doesn't make us bad guys.
We did it right. Then it went public and went all to hell for profit.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:13 PM
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14. I keep hearing that, however, many people and articles included
The Port of Long Beach, CA, and that is just bullshit.

http://www.polb.com/about/overview/who_we_are.asp

Which makes we wonder about the rest of the reports.

I would trust any company managing a port anywhere in the US that has a track record of proper management. I do not, however, trust the port company that is owned by the same government that facilitated the attacks on the WTC. I don't give a flying rat's ass if the management company and the security company are two different entities. Ask a local Longshoreman how they feel about that issue. You can't assume anything.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:35 PM
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3. Bush plans foreign takeover of airlines
Shiiiiiiiiiiiit
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:36 PM
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4. but they are making such a 'good faith" effort to find buyers. Rep. King.
For all the shouting a few months ago, things sure a quiet on this issue.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:45 PM
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8. Ain't that the truth!
You remember all those threads about this.

The bear just retired to the cave and let the thing cool down.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:39 PM
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5. This should put *'s numbers
firmly back in the 20's. Even the freeps hated that little episode.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:52 PM
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9. somehow i don't think it will be widely reported now
because the current 'news' is all the 'good news' for Bush, like he killed someone in Iraq who was meaningless, his top aid got away with treason and and and...well, you know, good stuff for Bush*
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:56 PM
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10. Not on the MSM but
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 06:01 PM by jimshoes
I know I'll mention it in passing to everyone I talk with starting today. We must become the media.

ed;sp
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:59 PM
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11. America's trade policy is the new Appeasement
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 06:00 PM by LiberalPartisan
When a country refuses to defend itself because to do so might offend its trading partners that country is guilty of appeasement and is de facto the weaker of the partners. The republicans are frittering away our national security at the behest of the multi-nationals.

That could be a winning point '06 and '08
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:09 PM
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12. I smell a fix here. Nobody's following the money.
Granted that there may be no genuine security implications to letting the UAE run our ports for us, but there sure is a political cost for the Bushies. Their base doesn't like it when Ay-rabs, even supposedly tame Ay-rabs run big things like American ports. So, all things being equal, the logical thing for the Bushies to have done would be to jettison the UAE company & give the contract to someone--almost anyone--else. They didn't do that. Therefore something very funny is going on. Specifically, it would seem that it is more important for them to use this contract as a big payoff to UAE interests than it is to avoid the political fallout of being seen to let the UAE have it. The big questions are: 1) What is this payoff FOR?--and 2) Why can't they find some less politically damaging way to do it?

Find the answers to these questions & you'll find out a lot about some very interesting entanglements between the Bushies & some VERY big Middle Eastern royals.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:17 PM
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15. Blair is in it, too.
The contract would have included a huge termiation penalty for the Brits. That is, if the buyer had been precluded from executing thier duties due to a flawed contract, the seller would have paid dearlt. Blair would have been walking up the gallows stairs, politically, if his presumed closeness with * hadn't pulled this through.

CIFIUS greenlighted this thing all the way.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:09 PM
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13. Smoked. Mirrored. Lied to. We are suckers for their lies. Do they
put on skits that laugh at us during their Bilderburger, Trilateral, Foreign Council, Skull & Bones, Federalist Scoiety meetings?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:18 PM
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16. Bush owes them so much...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:26 PM
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17. Yep.
UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait can do anything they damn well please. The rest of those pesky Middle Eastern buggers better lissen up, tho.

Except Israel, of course.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:44 PM
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18. Didn't this issue get settled.....
And was'nt it made clear that 9-11 changed everything, and........... It is not in our best interest......
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:52 PM
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19. Yeah, that's it.
All of that shouting and posturing was total bs.
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