Rethugs digging themselves further into the proverbial hole on C-SPAN 2

Voting against the Kennedy minimum wage hike, to take place over the next THREE years. This is such a small increase it's pathetic, yet the Thugs can't let their corporate donors suffer by giving ANY help to the little guy. I smell a big citizen revolt in November (at least for those citizens whose votes will be counted).

....a nice big Congressional pay increase. If this indeed gets voted down then I hope people remember this in November.:toast:

And of course most of their corporate pals in the MSM will accommodate that plan. :mad:

However, I DO expect Lou Dobbs to put it front and center tonight. :kick:

....critism of neocons and Dems. :applause:

much of the time. I wish we could clone him.

I think Enzi has a competing amendment that raises the minimum wage to $6.15 over two years. (I have it on, but haven't paid too close attention)

Anyway, if that's the case...I'm guessing the GOP along with support from conservative Dems will handily pass that one. Then the GOP will trumpet all over the airwaves how they've led the way to helping low-wage earners. :puke:

Maybe, just maybe!

Maybe some of these bottom feeders know they're going down unless they embrace democratic positions, and distance themselves completely from *. :D

that all too brief window, usually preceding national elections, where politicians of both stripes try extra hard to LOOK like they are looking out for the people of this country as opposed to the large corporations of this country.

I'm probably wrong to do this, as I get less info, but I always put the t.v. on mute when a Puke is debating.

:rofl:

The paint's worn off above that button!

And Bush is the strong smelling silent type too.

to them by parsimonious Rethugs: WAGES.

There is no way for those stingy bastards to answer this one save for their tired old "cost jobs" crapola, something which has never happened in the past (jobs are CREATED).

Kennedy is a smart old guy who knew they'd have to defeat this with poison pill riders or an outright down vote.

Now if only the jellyfish in office will pick up on this. If not, they deserve to be defeated.

Any Democrat who doesn't campaign on WAGES is a fool.

Wow!

I'm clueless about what's happening!

Kennedy passed! WHO withdrew it and WHY ?? :banghead:

NFW = no fucking way!!!!

Excellent news!!! Wish it was $13.61 an hour (living wage), but damn this is the first REAL victory (versus stopping a piece of RW crap) for average Americans AND Dems in Congress in years!

And 46 assholes are now standing there with a clear position agaist American workers and a LOSS on the dockett.

ON EDIT: of course the full bill will have to be voted on the floor. Doesn't this bill have the anti-abortion rider attached to it? (thanks, Frist...asshole)

If we get this increase in minimum wage, we may have to also get new restrictions on bringing a minor across state lines to get an abortion. See also: "poison pill" article on DU front page

Why was the Kennedy Amendment withdrawn when it passed? If this Repug min. wage passes then they will take the credit.

:wtf:

withdrawn?

Who withdrew it?

Goddamned fascists!!!

and Cons can fly a "we fight for low-wage earners" banner. :shrug:

I don't get it. I just...don't...get it.

Did the Dems stupidly agree to this maneuver?

I just don't get it.

I'm hoping some congressional experts will weigh in.

BOTH amendments withdrawn. :shrug:

Kennedy's amendment PASSED!

'cause I'm clueless over this one as well.

I sense something very sleazy, and outside the box, went down.

They did say passed and 'withdrawn UNDER PREVIOUS AGREEMENT'. The Dems must have agreed or there wouldn't be an agreement, no?

I saw this in another thread a few minutes ago.

Frist introduced s "poison pill" into the legislation, some sort of anti-choice garbage. The democrats had no real choice but to withdraw it.

Do you mean anti-choice as in abortion? If so, how does that connect with the minimum wage??? I just don't get this.

Constitution be damned.

"You say you are for the people, but you voted against increasing the minimum wage."

With Americans suffering under out/downsourcing and lack of national health care, etc., it's a winning issue.

Republicans did this so they can use it against us.


Do you honestly think that the Dems will ever have access to a forum where they can adequately explain what happened and the details of the vote?

And do you think Americans will understand?


Remember Kerry, the flip-flopper, when he said "voted for, before I voted against"


It was true, it was not a flip flop, but he was never given a forum to explain his comments.

All the women Senators will be on.

I'll start a thread.

At least I'm glad the Dems are getting a lot of air time on C-SPAN.

minimum wage bill just so the Dems would be forced to vote against it or withdraw it. The repugs are forced to vote for a raise in minimum wage IN AN ELECTION YEAR to keep their "trailer trash pie" happy but they can't allow the wages to go up if they still want their corporate money. Frist placed the poison pill to the issue so he can sweep it under the rug and think the American people will not notice. Frist has nothing to lose since he isn't running for re-election so he can play patty cake with his corporate owners and not upset his little presidential apple cart. Frist will table the issue until after the mid-terms and corrupt political games continue on. Nice government we have here, huh?

The agreement was that the amendment would need 60 votes to pass and it got 56. Now why the Dems agreed is another story. It stinks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060621/pl_nm/economy_wage_dc

Doomed before it hit the floor of the Senate.

The Thugs probably wouldn't have let it happen otherwise. It also explains why Lugar and his ilk knew it was safe to vote yea. They had the numbers all worked out ahead of time. A few who knew it would be a big election issue were allowed to vote with the Dems. The corporate campaign contributors were perfectly safe regardless. I hope this comes back to bite those scum is their collective butt.

What if it did come to the floor? It doesn't help poor families put food on the table just because the Dems voted for an amendment they knew was going to go down. All any of them care about is that they get reelected, not what actually gets done for their people. It's all a game. I'd like to see the whole damn bunch get thrown out. (Don't mind me- I'm just sick of Congress at this point and that means the Dems, too.)

But I think Kennedy has been consistently on the side of progressive causes. Maybe that's because he's not planning to run for pres. and/or is in a very liberal state. Anyway, it's better to have the cynical Pukes called out than not. If they have the balls, Dems can use this against the Pukes who voted against the mw increase, big time.

Keywords: "If they have the balls"..... I think we all know the answer to that and that's the problem with everything the Dems do.