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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 10:59 AM
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Bush to Europe: You Didn't Take 9/11 Seriously


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/06/21/bush-europeans-didnt-ta_n_23482.html

Today, President Bush held a press conference in Vienna, Austria as part of a diplomatic visit to Europe. He was asked by a member of the press why approval for his policies, particularly on national security issues, was so low in Europe. Bush explained that Europeans didn’t take the 9/11 attacks seriously. “For Europe, September 11th was a moment. For us, it was a change of thinking.”
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:02 AM
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1. And how seriously did Bush take the Madrid train bombing?
Or the London bomb? Or the anthrax murders? If you're still wet-your-pants scared, Mr. Bush, please get the fuck out of the way so that the grown-ups can take over and put together a coherent strategy.

How seriously does Bush take American atrocities? Warrantless searches and seizures of persons and property? Shutting down free speech? Not very seriously, obviously. For Bush to lecture anyone else on the planet about how seriously they take something is just hypocrisy and demagoguery of the first water. Shut up, George. Just shut up. You're not doing the country or the world any favors with your inane prattle.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:04 AM
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2. Well see Austria has seen this kind of right-wing shift before...
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ChicagoRonin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:04 AM
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3. Hmmmm . . .
Anyone know the comparison of statistics for European civilian combat and civilian casualities during World War II versus those for the United States? Not to mention the cost of property damage and rebuilding of the US vs. Europe?

I don't know them, but I have a feeling that Europeans are FAR more acutely aware of the first-hand effects of war than people in the US.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:37 PM
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41. Every small and medium-sized town in Western Europe
has a cemetery filled with the graves of the dead from World War I. It's an unbelievable feeling to realize that an entire generation of young European men went (most willingly) to their mass deaths in World War I.

Soviet Union lost 20 million during World War II. I'm pretty sure U.S. casualties approached that level :sarcasm:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:07 AM
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4. What the Europeans didn't seriously understand about 9-11
at the time (me too)

Was that it was a political device to enable a fascist takeover of the United States which allowed the neocons and their "New American Century"
to pursue their dream of Empire and world domination
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:10 AM
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11. reichstag fire
Austria's seen it all before from close up... naah, they donna understan' nuthin'
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:19 AM
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18.  Yeah, they never had a guy that was Austrian who sought world domination.
The real truth about 911 is the key to the lie of the rhetoric of 911,
"The big lie", by that Austrian failed artist, was painted so well by the dead Austrian.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:08 AM
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5. Next time
let's just find the stupidest idjit at freerepublic and send him out for international functions. We'll save a crapload on logistics and the security retinue, and WE WON'T BE ANY FUCKING LESS EMBARASSED. Whaddya say, sensible plan?
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:10 AM
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9. Works for me!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:10 AM
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10. Yeah, and he can provide his own port-a-pottie security
Great post!! :rofl:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:31 AM
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25. Oh god, that's brilliant. And sadly, so true. nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:09 AM
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6. Ann Coulter is the one who didn't take 9/11 serious.
She thought a good time was had by all...
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:09 AM
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7. Europe to Bush..."You are one dumb m-fer."
What an embarassment to our country this piece of shit is.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:23 PM
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37. I hope the Europeans do not lump us in the same category
as us liking bush policies, but, I think it's too late.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:38 PM
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42. Don't worry, we don't. (nt)
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:40 PM
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43. They started doing that when they saw the 2004 election results n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:09 AM
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8. any video of the press conf?
I see flop-sweat on that brow.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:10 AM
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12. What a disaster of a man
I hope the Austrians bum rush the little asshole and throw him in the clink. He deserves it, and we will be all the better for it.

I know, I know...it's OUR job to get rid of him.

-waiting-
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:11 AM
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13. Yeah, Bush**. Too bad the thinking wasn't being done by real leaders
...instead of your gang of opportunistic thugs.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:12 AM
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14. "I'm right, it's the rest of the world that's wrong!"
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:25 AM
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23. "It's them...right?!?!" "It's them!"
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:13 AM
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15. That sounds like a veiled threat. n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:13 AM
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16. This guy is too much!
as if Europe hasn't experienced terrorism! They've experienced more than we have. Also don't lecture them about the tragedy of 9/11. During World War II the American homefront got behind the war effort with victory gardens and rationing and stuff like that, but did we experience cities destroyed? homelessness and spending nights in bomb shelters? Get some perspective, Mr. Bush.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:27 AM
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24. yeah, but as far as Georgie is concerned, history began at his own birth
World War II? Who cares about that? All that stuff happened way before his lifetime, and he doesn't care about history anyway. That's also why he has no problem ignoring all facets of international law, including the Geneva Conventions and everything that came out of Nuremberg, and why he so blatantly borrows tactics from the Nazis without even bothering to try and make it look innocuous. He doesn't know any better, and his controllers are evil, evil men.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:16 AM
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17. diplomatic visit.
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 11:17 AM by ismnotwasm
Sigh. I'm beyond being embarassed by bush's little idiocies, but he never ceases to amaze me at how ignorant he actually sounds.

di·plo·ma·cy (dĭ-plō'mə-sē )
n.
"The art or practice of conducting international relations, as in negotiating alliances, treaties, and agreements.
Tact and skill in dealing with people. See synonyms at tact."
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:20 AM
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19. Oh jeez...Europe ought to just keep this little miscreant. The Hague has
a vacancy.

Maybe he can have the survivors/relatives of victims of the last 40+ years of bombings in Europe come visit him.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:22 AM
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20. Once again putting the "dip" in diplomat...
Next he'll be telling them the Germans don't have a word for "blitzkrieg"...
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:23 AM
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21. LOL
double funny
:rofl:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:24 AM
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22. Good lord. He's doing the hunch in that picture. I hate that move.
He does it when he's being even more of a sanctimonious ass than normal. :(
I am so freaking embarassed that he is the president. I hope that the USA can regain some of the world's respect after the little dictator is gone (preferably to The Hague).
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:34 AM
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27. What, you aren't charmed
when he does that head-bobbing turtle thing? His weird moves and slammin' wardrobe have inspired so many man-crushes amongst the TeeVee bobbleheads, sometimes I wonder if there isn't something wrong with with my television. They're swooning over Elvis, I see Jethro Bodine.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:40 AM
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31. I don't understand how * suppporters don't see Jethro instead of Elvis.
Maybe the core 29% of Bush* supporters are clueless, stupid, goobers just like Chimpy. :(
They may identify with him and project his fake bravado and slimy "charm" onto themselves.
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:32 AM
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26. There he goes again. GWB can still GFH.
"Post 9/11 mentality" means Connected and Under Control and all that other fucking conservative hivemind shit. FTS.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:35 AM
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28. Wonder if our "New American Century" reminds them of that thousand year
reich business?
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:37 AM
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29. I hate it when he goes into his "9/11 changed everything" spiel.
It's pretty bad when a couple of Europeans can speak better english than our President. :shrug:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:39 AM
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30. Europe knew * and his cabal were responsible for 911. n/t
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:42 AM
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32. Was Europe too busy reading MY PET GOAT at the time???
I didn't think so. :eyes:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:04 PM
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33. * has never heard of Dresden. n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:08 PM
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34. OMG! Is that a warning or what?!
:scared:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:19 PM
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35. I think everyone at the DU should realize
The Waving of the Bloody Shirt of 9/11 is going to continue for at least the next 25 years.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:43 PM
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44. But with less and less effectiveness, I would argue. I think its
effectiveness has already deteriorated significantly, which is what makes the talk of nuking Iran all the more worrisome. (Cognoscenti of 'behaviorist' psychology know that behavior modification, e.g., creating support for invading Iraq and\or nuking Iran, only works if there are occasional positive stimuli, e.g. 9/11 or ???

If you run a gambling casino and you want your customers to continue putting coins in the slot machine, you must provide a payoff (positive stimulus) every so often. Same goes with PNAC and BFEE -- they'll have to provide another stimulus, b/c the stimulative effect of 9/11 has started to wear off.

It pains me mightily to say it (and I live in Los Angeles, CA, so have reason to be worried), but I can smell it coming.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:59 PM
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36. He's right...
They were too chickenshit to come out about how his people orchestrated 9/11 for him, except in limited releases (like the French intel leak about the CIA-Osama meeting in Dubai). So they're still stuck with him.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:12 PM
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38. Thanks Dubya. you were the one who blew off NATO
Most significant, the European leaders of NATO, for the first time in the organization's history, invoked Article 5 of its charter, calling on its 19 member-nations to treat the attack on America as an attack on them all—a particularly moving gesture, as Article 5 had been intended to guarantee American retaliation against an attack on Europe.
...
Aside from letting a handful of NATO's AWACS radar planes come help patrol American skies, Bush's response was a shockingly terse: Thanks, but no thanks; we'll handle it by ourselves. Marc Grossman, the undersecretary of state for political affairs, later admitted to the Washington Times that the United States initially "blew off" the allies. Douglas Feith, the undersecretary of defense for policy, said that the United States, in the Times' words, "was so busy developing its (Afghanistan) war plans that it did not have time to focus on coordinating Europe's military role."
...
A week before the Prague Summit, Lord George Robertson, NATO's secretary-general, gave a glowing speech about its prospects to the NATO parliamentary assembly in Istanbul. "Prague," he said, would "give us the chance to demonstrate that not only our security environment has changed, but that NATO has changed with it." The summit would confirm that NATO was becoming "the focal point" for the fight against terrorism. And it would "debunk the myth that has crept into the trans-Atlantic relationship after 9/11—the myth that the US and its Allies are no longer able or willing to cooperate as a military team. … It will demonstrate that Europe and America are on the same wavelength—both mentally and militarily."

Of course, the summit did no such thing. Bush's delegates used it only as a vehicle to rally support for the impending war against Iraq. Rumsfeld exacerbated the growing rift by going so far as to tout the new members of the alliance—the small nations of the former Soviet empire, whose leaders tended to endorse the war—over the traditional and much larger Western allies, whose leaders tended to oppose it.
http://www.slate.com/id/2088113/


You insisted on going into Afghanistan on your own - and then screwed that up, lost interest, and went of your Crusade For Oil in Iraq. That's not taking 9/11 seriously - it's using it as an excuse to launch your longed-for imperial oil war.
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:19 PM
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39. Bush sounds like the mafia
and I don't think this country has taken the implications of 9/11 seriously. We spend more money on our military defense than all other countries combined but on 9/11 we had no defense systems intact to stop a hijacking? Payne Stewart was better protected than the people in the twin towers. Our military is being run by either the most incompetent idiots ever OR our government is complicit in the attacks-- either way it doesn't look good.

This country needs to wake up!

Oh...and Bush "Where's Osama you idiot!" He aint in Iraq or Iran. Why the fu## does he get away with this shit?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:33 PM
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40. What an arrogant fuck
many people from many different nations perished that day you evil awol fuk.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:45 PM
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45. Well, that's Old Europe for ya.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:50 PM
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46. Cause they had been dealing with terrorism for a generation or two.
So it was not such a shock. They've been through two World Wars, a cold war, and terrorism. They have already broken through to the other side. Where one is adult. And they did show up to fight in AFGHANISTAN.
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