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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:02 PM
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We need a net gain of at least 11 Senate Seats in November!
We currently have 43 Democrats plus we can usually count on Jeffords, making 44.

However, a handful of DINOs can not be counted on, whatsoever.

I see them as Nelson, Nelson, Landrieu, Lieberman. That's 4.

That leaves us with 40 votes. Maybe less, if you want to throw any other DINOs in there.

Thus, we need a minimum net gain of 11 seats, to affect any meaningful change in the course of this country.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:04 PM
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1. Nelson of Florida goes with the wind
If the Dems are in power,,, he will be very blue... :grr:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:05 PM
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2. Lieberman's about to be replaced
With Lamont in place for CT, that whittles it down to 3.

Then again, there's Dianne Feinstein to consider. Back up to 4 again.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:11 PM
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6. What about Dianne? Is she in trouble? Hadn't kept up with her....
You really think Lamont will win? That would be great. I am from CT, and everyone in my family there hates Joe Mo.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:17 PM
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12. A lot of DUers consider Feinstein a DINO
The lack of an "Aye" vote from her on the Kerry/Feingold amendment will probably be cited as further evidence.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:12 PM
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7. We can count on PA, surely n/t
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:05 PM
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3. But we usually get chafee!
He votes with the D's as often as the DINO's vote with the R's.

But he's toast anyway. So we can't count on him, either.

At this point, I'd be happy with 50 Dem's, 49 r's and one I.

It's all about who controls the committees. Number one priority is getting control of setting the agenda.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:10 PM
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4. ya, you're right. maybe with the dems in a majority that might
change the DINOs. Sometimes I think Landrieu votes with repigs because she is looking for Katrina funds from them.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:20 PM
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14. Number 2 priority is having a majority leader who is willing to fight.
I'm not sure we have one now.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:31 PM
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15. I'm with ya on that one!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:07 PM
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21. I'd love to see Feingold as leader!
He probably doesn't have enough seniority though. :(
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:08 PM
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22. who would you like? I'd like an articulate firecracker.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:08 PM
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23. sorry - duh just saw your other post.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:11 PM
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5. I think you'd see a change in those Sens if control switched to the Dems.
The most important thing is to get a majority!!!!
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BuhByeChimp Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:13 PM
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8. Whats a realistic projection?
On how many seats can be picked up?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:15 PM
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11. Good news, bad news from latest WSJ/Zogby Senate Poll
WSJ Battleground States - June 21

Good news? Dems lead in 12 of the 17 tracked races, an increase since the last poll taken in March.

Bad news? Even at this rate, the poll projects Republicans will retain control of the Senate.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:43 PM
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17. Thanks for that link. I have been looking for an analysis like that
If you look close - this does seem doable, though. If you take WSJ latest mix, and we get the 2 considered ties plus pick up Talent's, Kyl's, and Allen's seat (all under 10 point separation) we can do it.

That would be 45 (WSJ latest) plus 2 (now tied) plus 1 (independent) plus 3 (Talent, Allen, and Kyl) = 51 we'd be in business !!!

Everyone pour everything you have in the senate races in MO, AZ, VA, TN amd MN !!!!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:54 PM
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18. Right, and the WSJ isn't tracking Montana or Rhode Island...
... where we really stand a chance!

Keep up the hard work and especially the OPTIMISM!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 10:29 AM
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26. We're ahead in Montana
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 10:45 AM by Lasher
Here is the latest on the Montana Senate race. That makes a total of 3 we currently stand to pick up, which means have half the 6 seats we need to regain control of the Senate. And with momentum apparently on our side, we are close to picking up seats in Missouri, Tennessee, Virginia, and Rhode Island. Here is the latest polling information on the Rhode Island Senate race.

I'm glad you mentioned these other races. It's easy for the casual observer to look at the WSJ Battleground States Poll and think that it includes all the close races. As you have pointed out, it does not.

Edit: Oboy, and now Arizona is now very close according to the WSJ poll. I hadn't yet taken the WSJ poll into account, and was going by a 5/24/06 Rasmussen poll that showed Kyl (R) ahead of Pederson (D) 52% to 35%, but the WSJ poll shows Kyl's lead has narrowed. Now it's to 48% to 42%. This, together with the great news about the Virginia race, is an example of why I believe the momentum is on our side.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:16 PM
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24. Tennessee is in play
Yes, Harold Ford, Jr. is not the most progressive candidate, but he does share some of the same ideals that we do. And of course, he beats the fundies that the Right-Wing is trumpeting (Van Hilleary and Ed Bryant). Most of the polls I have seen have Ford neck-to-neck with them, so he does stand a legitmate shot.

I can tell you that things are starting to turn sour for the GOP here in even their strongest area (East TN). Most of the people in this area aren't the rabid bible-thumping knuckle draggers like they are generally characterized to be. They are moderate, hard-working people who are mostly fed up with the direction this country is going and have seen the consuequences of GOP rule. A man that I know, who I like to consider a "bell-weather" of conservative politics in East TN, told me that a lot of his friends are voting Dem in Nov just to get Bush under control on spending and "get us the hell out of Iraq". Take that for what its worth, but to me, it says something coming from this person and their politics.

Things are looking up, we just need to push harder!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:33 PM
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16. Welcome to DU - LOVE your user name !
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:43 PM
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25. Hi BuhByeChimp!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:14 PM
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9. It doesn't matter; they caucus with the Dems
All that really matters is control of the committees. Lieberman can vote anyway he wants as long as the right bills come out of committee.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:15 PM
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10. Jeffords will be replaced by Bernie Sanders, also an Independent
Jeffords is retiring, and Sanders is favored to win that Senate race. And he is much more liberal than Jeffords. So even though it doesn't change the count, Sanders is a much more dependable vote. Jeffords used to be a rethug, even though he now caucuses with the Dems.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:18 PM
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13. Cantwell's getting into trouble in her race
That may turn (back) into a Con seat; but she's about as reliable as the Nelson boys.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:55 PM
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19. Senator Pat "cover-up" Roberts will lose his committee chair when Dems win
so if it takes a couple DINOs to achieve that, so be it.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 10:50 AM
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27. And my man Jay Rockefeller will be the Senate Intelligence Committee chair
As a supporter and fellow West Virginian, I am looking forward to that possibility with eager anticipation.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:56 PM
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20. nice thought but we won't gain 11 seats. I just hope we get enough
to get control of the Senate.
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