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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:58 PM
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Eddie Schultz and his pro-war DCons don't see it.
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 06:02 PM by HereSince1628
I listened to him on the way home from the farm today. My god, the guy might fish from his pontoon boat, but he sure doesn't play chess.

The Cons just married themselves to Iraq all the way past November.

The majority of the nation thinks America's involvement in Iraq needs to end, mostly because there is no concievable way to come out cleaner than the sand, dust, and scandal covered operations already are.

The Dems essentially got the Cons to dress-up in pretty white lace and Mary-Janes and pledge themselves in support of a failed policy the American voter no longer believes in.

Sure, Ed, the R's seemed to win a vote. But that's not all that happened. They are now stuck to that vote like it's a tar baby and the American people aren't about to decide that supporting one side in a 3-way civil war is a good cause in which to cash-in American lives.

Those poor white party dresses...they might never come clean.




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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:00 PM
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1. This whole nation is headed down the tubes...
The establishment in either party is ruining our country. Our guys are spineless, the other side is just plain evil. I don't what we can do to stop this horrible war.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:03 PM
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2. Exactly right. Mr Big Head Ed is too lazy to see that the OCCUPATION
Let me repeat the the Immoral illegal occupation of IRAQ is not popular. Let the RW a$$hatts tie themselves firmly to this unholy cause. They also own vote suppression, The Bankruptcy rip off and denying the needy an increase in the minimum wage.
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Fla4kerry Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:05 PM
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3. This is the 3rd day
Eddie ( I can't figure which side I'm on ) rallied against the Dem's. Enough is Enough with the bashing big mouth Eddie! His show has slightly changed over the past 2 months. Hell if I wanted to hear complaints against the Dem's I will listen to right fringed radio..

JJ
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:09 PM
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5. Yeah, it's interesting that he and Franken both play so much of
the DCon think-tankers.

It's as though the producers believe "They got brains, we gots Jason."
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:07 PM
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4. Ed is not the issue. He wanted a united democratic front.
What he should have realized is that the majority of American's support Kerry's plan, particularly if they're simply asked, "What should we do about Iraq?"

We need to get Ed to rectify his mistake but he's still a Democrat and he's still not a 'Republican' as you claim. He probably saw 30 for Reid's bill and 13 for Kerry's and assumed that Kerry was to blame which he's not.

He had a better larger point that got lost in his own rant.

Have the Republicans and Democrats (like the Republicans would do this) bring in the Generals to tesify before Congress and the American people UNDER OATH.

THAT is a great plan. And Kerry's plan has popular support unlike Reid's wishy washy bill. And we need to call Reid's office and tell him that too! As well as calling Kerry's and thanking him for putting himself in the line of fire again. AND then to top it off...call ED and tell it to Ed, but still ACCEPT ED for the good work he does. He just had a "Rush moment" there, but I'm sure if someone were to talk to him he'd realize he screwed up this time.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:10 PM
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6. There's no need to split the party
Despite whatever dumb-ass thing Ed said. Just because he's too stupid to identify BOTH amendments as supporting withdrawal and disengagement, doesn't mean everybody else has to be that stupid. Take a page from John Kerry, DON'T disparage other Democrats, just stand for what you believe in.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:14 PM
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7. It's not about splitting the party, it's about pointing out what Ed and
Co. fail in their myopic way to see. I would hope some of his followers conservative though they might be might also be democratic enough to be open-minded enough to consider this perspective.

The Dems in the Senate made a good play, they took advantage of the conservative's overeagerness. That's exactly how you win when playing the Art of War.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:25 PM
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8. "pro-war DCons" is party splitting rhetoric
Most Democrats voted for withdrawal today, they voted to end the war. WE should focus on that because that's more important than any political points, even if Ed is currently too dense to get it. Don't help him create the divide because that will only hurt in November.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:46 PM
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9. There is a conservative side to the party, that's who I mean
with the shorthand DCons.

If people wear a chip on their shoulder they'll make of it what they may.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 07:13 PM
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10. They voted to get out of Iraq
So there's no validity to your "shorthand", which makes it party splitting rhetoric, like I said.

I am not going to play the game that there is a significant difference betwen the Kerry-Feingold amendment and Levin's amendment, the way the left did to Kerry in 2004. There are a few who appear to support Bush's war - Lieberman, Landrieu, the Nelsons, and Pryor - but the rest clearly want a new strategy and I'm not going to play politics and pretend they don't.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 07:19 PM
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11. I'm totally against the war, but Ed has a point too
His is just another perspective - he thinks we should avoid fighting losing battles and looking like there is not a united front against the war in the Democratic Party. I can see his perspective - there are some congressmen in marginal districts that may be hurt by the Rove slime machine. Then again, he may be all wet and people will respect those that took a stand - fine with me either way - I welcome all viewpoints.
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