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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:22 PM
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U.S. foreign policy still in hands of pro-Israel lobby
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There was a time when it looked as if Washington's neocons were in full retreat, discredited by the catastrophe in Iraq.

The cabal of pro-Israeli foreign policy hawks at the heart of the Bush Administration were beginning to face sharp criticism. They were blamed for having carried the United States into war on false, and even fraudulent, premises.

As the huge costs of the war mounted, the notion of reshaping the Middle East's political order by armed force to suit US and Israeli interests under the cover of promoting "democracy" had, for many observers, come to seem a grotesque confidence trick.

At the same time, an acrimonious debate started in the United States about the role of Israel's army of American lobbyists in influencing American Middle East policy in an anti-Arab and pro-Israeli direction.

A trigger for this debate was a lengthy paper, highly critical of the Israel lobby, which two prominent American academics, John Mears-heimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard, published last March. Their work aroused a storm of protest from Israeli sympathisers and continues to be the subject of fierce controversy.
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The NeoCons are still there just been rearranged

and the new war is controlling international banks all across the world... Bush is feeezing their accounts... they can't get money they can't fight...
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:30 PM
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1. While people die in the hospitals because there is no medicine
Yeah, we're helping out well.. Jolie needs to adopt a Palestinian next.. bring their plite to life
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:23 AM
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11. "plight"
i've had their "plight" shoved into my face for decades via hijackings and suicide bombings. i'd love to hear arafat speak from hell about his investments in gambling casinos while his people live in squalor.

where is suha? the grieving beard (oops, i mean widow)...oh, in paris with approx. 250 million bucks. perhaps she can set up a fund.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:36 PM
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2. Patrick Seale is a journatlistic mouthpiece for the Syrian government.
This is swill.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:57 PM
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3. Swill because it talks about AIPAC?
Because he is on good terms with the Syrians? Or was it the biography of Asad? Apparently someone thinks highly of him, he was a correspondent for the London Observer for many years. He has also authored several books, so he must have some following.

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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:59 PM
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5. Ah, the Dem wing of "Don't criticize Israel EVER!!!" shows up
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 09:36 PM
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10. Israel is his meal ticket.
"Ooooh, lookit me, I'm so brave." Spewing all the way to the bank. :boring:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:59 PM
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4. Thanks. I'm off to find the article. Yes, thanks for posting.
"The answer at last! Uri Avnery, former Knesset member, assesses the Lobby's power. "If the Israeli government wanted a law tomorrow annulling the 10 Commandments, 95 U.S. Senators (at least) would sign the bill forthwith."

I took a look at some articles along the way - the paragraph above is an excerpt from a Counterpuch prelude to some words about the work you're referencing.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:05 PM
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6. oh please, you're so predictable
i wasn't aware israel was drowning with seas of oil or was a hugely populated counntry of ta dem! those hostile 7 million jews.......oh, i quake every time hear about those wascally israelis wanting to take advantage of the other 2 billion folks on earth.

give it up already. throughout history jews (and now israel) is blamed for everyu ill in the world).

here's something controversial....our foreign policy is absolutely controlled by the power mad arabs who control the wealth of the US by our dependence on oil, ahem friendships with the bushs, and the gentle way they reason with the rest of the world....bombs, hijackings, race wars, and massive investment in these US.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:17 PM
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7. TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR POST.
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:29 AM
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14. Why is it that when anyone criticizes Israel- the justification
(or counterargument presented) is the legacy of hatred and descrimination...


and yet


We constantly refer to Muslim terrorists, Islamo-Fascists (take your pick of terms)...


Sorry, but it's not anti-semitic to question whether or not American foreign policy has been unduly influenced by people who put Israel at the center of Asian foreign policy... I think the answer is clearly yes...

Then, the question comes what do we do about it...?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:20 PM
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8. weren't there Israeli lobbyists arrested for giving US military
secrets to Israel???

i thought I read that somewhere???
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:23 PM
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9. doesn't every country in the world have spies here
and don't we have spies in every other country? That's reality. If Israeli's did that it is wrong but it is the same thing everyone does. If you get caught your fucked..if you don't your a hero to your country. Thats espionage.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:07 AM
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12. every country in the world doesn't dictate our foreign policy
like the Likkudnicks in the U.S. do.

That's the difference
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 03:23 AM
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13. Slanderous exaggeration.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 03:24 AM by Jim Sagle
Likudniks dictate nothing. Israel is merely the lipstick on this fascist pig.
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