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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:34 PM
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Here is the transcript of Bill Press on CNN saying Miami plot trumped up:
I promised this earlier, here it is. I have included the full "Strategy Session" for you to place it in context. The most important part follows and is in bold.
"BLITZER: Welcome back.

In our "Strategy Session," terrorism in the headlines -- suspects charged in an alleged plot to bomb the Sears Tower in Chicago and other targets, and a secret Bush administration program to track financial data revealed.

Joining us now, Democratic analyst Bill Press and Terry Jeffrey, the editor of "Human Events Online."

The FBI indictment writes that Narseal Batiste, one of those alleged suspects, detailed his mission to wage a full ground war against the United States "in order to kill all the devils we can, in a mission that would be just as good or greater than 9/11."

This is good news, that these guys are arrested, I suspect you agree. BILL PRESS, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I think it's good news that they're arrested. And, this morning, I thought, well, this is really scary, and this is a great job that the administration has done, saved us from a great threat.

The more I read into it, and the more I look at it, the less I am convinced of that, Wolf. I mean, I think these guys were amateurs, at best. I mean, these were -- the Miami seven, they sound like the Keystone Cops. I mean, they wore uniforms; they wore turbans. They bragged to their neighbors about what they were doing. They stood guard outside of their warehouse.

I mean, they were hardly sophisticated terrorists or effective terrorists, if they were -- if they were terrorists at all. I think this whole thing smells of politics. I think this is the administration ratcheting up the war on terror again in the midterm elections. And it's no coincidence that this arrest came the same day that the bank records story appeared in the "New York Times..."

BLITZER: Well, we are going to get to that.

PRESS: ... and Dick Cheney went to Chicago.

BLITZER: Well -- but what you are saying is, this whole thing is concocted to score political points for the Bush administration?

PRESS: I smell a rat. That's what I'm saying.


BLITZER: Well, that's a serious charge.

Let's let Terry respond, but also respond in the context of what the attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, said today, among other things.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALBERTO GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL: We felt that the combination of the planning and the overt acts taken were sufficient to support this prosecution. And -- and that's why we took this action. There is no immediate threat.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: All right, Terry, respond to what we just heard from Bill...

TERRY JEFFREY, EDITOR, "HUMAN EVENTS": Well...

BLITZER: ... because there are career prosecutors out there involved, FBI agents, senior officials who are obviously deeply involved in this operation.

JEFFREY: Right. You have the joint terrorism task force in that area of the country that went after these guys, Wolf.

But, really, I think to say that seven people who had taken a pledge to al Qaeda and were intent on killing many, many, maybe thousands, of Americans were amateurs were not a threat, and the whole thing was concocted by the administration for political purposes is, on the face, ludicrous.

How many people could seven amateur killers kill, Wolf, especially if they simply went down and bought guns? These people were talking about blowing up the Sears Tower, the highest office building in the United States of the America.

By the way, it reminds me a lot of the Portland seven case, where you had homegrown Americans who were disaffected with the country. They joined a fundamentalist mosque. And they, in fact, did come in contact with a member of al Qaeda. They first tried to go through China, to Afghanistan, to kill Americans here. They came back, and they plotted to go after either Jewish schools or synagogues and kill Americans there.

The FBI and the joint terrorism task force in Oregon got them first.

BLITZER: All right.

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: What I'm saying, Wolf....

JEFFREY: We needed to roll these guys up before they kill...

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: Listen, I'm glad they're in jail.

What -- what I am saying is not that the administration put it up to them, Terry. I didn't say that. I think the administration is exaggerating the importance of this, and timing the arrests today for political purposes.

JEFFREY: Well, Bill...

PRESS: And wait.

We have seen...

(CROSSTALK)

JEFFREY: They should have arrested them next week?

PRESS: Listen, we have seen...

(CROSSTALK)

JEFFREY: I mean, should they have waited until October to arrest them?

PRESS: Terry, let me finish a sentence.

JEFFREY: How many...

PRESS: Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Wait.

We have seen them do this before. What about those color-coded terror alerts that we used to have?

JEFFREY: Well...

PRESS: Every time there was bad news for Republicans, you would have had a color-coded terror alert.

JEFFREY: Bill...

PRESS: This was timed...

JEFFREY: Let me ask you a simple question.

PRESS: ... to distract attention from the bank records story.

JEFFREY: When should they have arrested these seven people pledged to kill Americans?

PRESS: Maybe...

JEFFREY: When? When? When?

PRESS: Maybe when they first found out about them...

(CROSSTALK)

JEFFREY: Not this year, because it's an election year?

PRESS: No, no, maybe when they first found out about them, instead...

JEFFREY: In December.

PRESS: ... of timing it for Dick Cheney's visit to Chicago and to deflect...

JEFFREY: Well, wait a minute.

PRESS: ... deflect attention...

JEFFREY: Right.

PRESS: ... from the bank records story.

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: You can't tell me that this...

JEFFREY: Let...

PRESS: ... administration has never exploited...

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: ... the war on terror...

BLITZER: All right.

PRESS: ... for political purposes.

BLITZER: Go ahead, Terry.

JEFFREY: Well, one of the reasons, in an investigation like this, they will detect a person they think is involved in terrorism, it takes a few months, or maybe several months, before they round them up, is, they want to make sure they get the entire cell.

They want to make sure they get everybody involved. They want to make sure they collect the evidence, so they actually can convict them in court.

For Bill to say that Alberto Gonzales manipulated the timing, come up with evidence of that, Bill.

PRESS: Listen...

JEFFREY: When -- you are saying that today...

PRESS: I...

JEFFREY: ... was the optimum day, politically, for these people to be arrested?

PRESS: I...

JEFFREY: Therefore, the Justice Department went forward? Are you seriously saying that?

PRESS: I am telling you, if you go back over the last -- since 9/11, this administration -- we just heard it on the piece before we came on here.

This administration, they have got one issue. They have got fear, fear.

BLITZER: All right. Let...

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: And every time...

BLITZER: Let's...

PRESS: ... there's a political crisis, they ratchet up the war on terror.

(CROSSTALK)

JEFFREY: Well, Bill... PRESS: They have done it for five-and-a-half years.

JEFFREY: So, all of the FBI...

PRESS: They are doing it again today.

JEFFREY: ... the U.S. prosecutors, the Justice Department people, the local law enforcement that were involved in this, they were all corrupted in a conspiracy...

BLITZER: All right.

JEFFREY: ... by the Bush administration?

PRESS: No. Don't put words...

JEFFREY: ... to affect the election?

PRESS: No, no, no.

JEFFREY: They weren't all corrupted?

PRESS: Don't put words in my mouth.

JEFFREY: Well, who was corrupted, Bill?

PRESS: The attorney general is a political clone of George W. Bush.

JEFFREY: He was corrupted.

BLITZER: All right.

Let -- let's talk about this other story, somewhat related, all part of the war on terror, monitoring these wire transfers, these bank transactions.

The treasury secretary, John Snow, explained it this way:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN SNOW, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: This terrorist tracking program, administered through the Treasury Department and Undersecretary Levey, is really government at its best. It's responsible government. It's effective government. It's government that works.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: I suspect you disagree with him on that.

PRESS: Well, I just have to say, I think, Republican or Democrat, liberal, conservative, it's not government at its best when government is getting all of our phone records without a court warrant, without a court order, illegally. It's not government at its best when government is getting all of our bank records without a court order. It's not government at its best when you have got Big Brother unleashed, with no congressional approval and no court approval. I think it's government at its most scary and its most disgraceful.

BLITZER: I want you to respond.

Ed Markey, congressman from Massachusetts, Democrat, issued a statement, saying, "Like the domestic surveillance program exposed last December, the Bush administration's efforts to tap into the final -- financial records of thousands of Americans appear to rely on justifications concocted without regard to current law."

JEFFREY: Well, his argument, just like Bill, is based on distorting the facts.

Not everyone's phone record was taken by the NSA. Not everybody's financial transactions were picked up by this program. They were narrowly targeted at people with suspected links to al Qaeda.

Now, here's a fact. "The New York Times" this morning, in its report, named two al Qaeda terrorists that were rolled up with the help of this program, Hambali, who planned the Bali resort attack, and a person in New York who laundered $200,000 for al Qaeda.

"The New York Times" story, Wolf, did not name a single American who was harmed by this program. It's simply a theory that this program is harming Americans. It's a fact that it tracked down al Qaeda.

PRESS: If they were breaking the law, it's harming the government. If there's probable cause -- read the Fourth Amendment. You know, I believe...

(CROSSTALK)

BLITZER: The administration says that members of Congress were briefed on this...

(CROSSTALK)

PRESS: Briefing is not approval, Wolf.

And the -- and, by the way, Congress does not take the place of a court. Read the Fourth Amendment. We have a right to be secure in our persons, our homes, our papers, and our offices, unless there's probable cause.

JEFFREY: Reasonable...

PRESS: If there's probable cause, go get a court warrant. If there's not...

BLITZER: Terry... PRESS: ... they have no business in our business...

BLITZER: ... you're a journalist. Did "The New York Times" do the right thing...

PRESS: ... in our private affairs.

BLITZER: ... in disclosing the details of this program?

JEFFREY: No. I -- they had a right to do it. I think they made a mistake. I agree with Woolsey. There was a judgment call here.

We are in a congressionally authorized war against al Qaeda. And it's analogous to this. If a "New York Times" reporter was traveling with a group of al Qaeda terrorists, and he knew American forces over there were hiding and they were going to ambush these al Qaeda guys, should he tell al Qaeda the Americans are over there?

Effectively, what "The New York Times" said is, here's a covert, secret means by which the United States...

(CROSSTALK)

JEFFREY: ... of America is tracking you down.

(CROSSTALK)

BLITZER: Very quickly.

PRESS: Very quickly.

"The New York Times" -- forget "The New York Times." You and I knew about this ahead of time. You know why? We read Ron Suskind's book. So, why all the attention at "The New York Times"? Politics, Wolf. That's all it is.

JEFFREY: We have a right...

PRESS: Direct...

JEFFREY: ... to keep our tactics...

PRESS: Deflect attention.

BLITZER: All right.

JEFFREY: ... secret from an enemy in time of war. Al Qaeda is our enemy...

PRESS: Print...

JEFFREY: ... in a congressionally authorized war.

PRESS: Print the truth. Print the truth. That's the job of "The New York Times."

JEFFREY: But do it with moral..

BLITZER: All right.

JEFFREY: ... responsibility.

BLITZER: We got to go.

Bill Press, Terry Jeffrey, good discussion. Thanks very much."
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:48 PM
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Can you post the link to the transcript?
Here's the earlier thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1494542
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