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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:14 AM
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This Florida Terrorist Hoax is decidedly Racist
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 06:55 AM by Philosoraptor
First I have to qualify my rant by saying that I don't believe a goddamned thing they say on the news and from the white house.

Look at this crap, 7 black radical's faces plastered all over the t.v. screen. The whole story popped up at a suspicious time, out of nowhere, fully developed and ready for public consumption.

Hysteria, paranoia, division, polarization and above all racism is on full display here.

I know of a whole slew of white racist crazies right here in Kansas, Christian fundamentalists, klansmen, survivalists, and possible future terrorists, why is no one rounding them up? They know right where they are.

This is race baiting, religion baiting, and fear baiting and I"m not buying it for one second.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:22 AM
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1. You're exactly right. Did MSM focus on the old, white guy with
all the explosives? No. The Miami guys didn't have money, weapons or anything but a fantasy.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:33 AM
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4. No they didn't even have a fantasy until the FBI agent put it there.
They were trying to do the Black Panther thing circa 2006. FBI comes along and pretends to be Al Qaeda promising money and weapons.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:24 AM
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2. They had no money. Hussein wasn't sending them money through
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 06:25 AM by higher class
any bank. Bin Laden wasn't sending them money through any Sheik.

They weren't discovered by spying on their phone calls FROM OVERSEAS.

A person got planted into their group and promised to buy them materials to bomb? The person was a governmet-taxpayer paid plant?

We need the truth.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:38 AM
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5. then that person suggested they blow up a tall landmark building
and asked them to swear allegiance to Al-Quaeda.

Kind of a government "make work" program, I'd say. If you haven't got any terrorists on hand for headlines, make your own.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:30 AM
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3. Think of Waco. You go anywhere near white survivalist types and
it sets off the colony.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:46 AM
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6. I do not know about Racist ... but it is 100% Mickey Mouse ... nt
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:51 AM
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7. Rove isn't as wily as they say. And other dopes come out with
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 06:58 AM by higher class
some absurd, transparent plots.

Sadly, comparing them to Mickey Mouse realllllly demeans Mickey Mouse.

I can't even say rats or snakes when trying to show my contempt. Some people call them reptilians. I've settled on creatures for now - in-human, Godless, creatures.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:54 AM
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8. I think racist its 10% racist, 10% poor and 150% pure made up
bullshit. First they arrest they guys all at the local Dennys or some place where there were no tv news cameras and then stage the large raid on a warehouse they know full well is completely empty for show. Now they have manage to round up some of the faceless, voiceless people who go to jail in this country every day because they don't have the money or any other resources others have to keep themselves out of traps like this.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:57 AM
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9. Slow terror news day.
It really is made up.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:01 AM
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10. It wasn't a slow day = it was to deflect from SWIFT (and Savafian to a
lesser extent),
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:03 AM
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12. & to reinvigorate our spirit for continuing the disastrous war.
Remember why we're at war folks, terrorists are crawling all over America.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:03 AM
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11. Also decidedly CLASSIST
because the real terrorists are middle class and educated.

These wannabees were all from Liberty City, arguably one of the poorest places in the country.

I can't fault them for their rage. Poverty is a WMD.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:04 AM
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13. Our Enemy is in the white house, not in the streets of America.
This is cheap diversion from the real terrorists in the suits.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:08 AM
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14. True but this was very easy and
convenient so Jeb is just helping out his brother.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:10 AM
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15. Jeb the Sith Lord.
So very convenient, and so very simple and cost effective, averting a terror hoax that never was.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:29 AM
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18. Yes but sadly their plots
are as shallow as an Aaron Spelling movie(RIP Aaron Spelling!).
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:20 AM
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16. this sounds like both sides are doing a keystone cops thing
Sorry It is like making points with a women telling her you work for the CIA and the women believe you.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:26 AM
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17. The Department of Homeland Hysteria.
Is working overtime here.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:31 AM
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19. At least the Mexicans are getting a breather from the racists for a while
Always a silver lining.


Don
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:35 AM
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20. Yeah the silver lining.
Mexicans get a breather, and gays and lesbians and flag burners.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:49 AM
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21. I don't think just because they are Black
that it is a racist thing. More than half of Miami is Black.

I do think, however, that it's a local issue that is getting way tooooo much air time.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:22 PM
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22. Blacks make up 20 percent of Miami
More than 50 percent of us down here are Hispanic
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:09 PM
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26. I stand corrected!
I had forgotten how the demographics change from the rest of the state in that area.

But really only 20%? I would have guess higher.

TG
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:23 PM
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23. Not to mention that a couple of them
are illegal aliens, from what I understand.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 02:32 PM
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24. And the rest are children of immigrants
Most are Haitian descent, but one was born in Miami to parents from the Dominican Republic.

It seems that most came from very strong Catholic families. Working class families that put a lot of faith in their religion. The men were practicing a brand of religion that used elements from Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

They strike me as typical Miami twentysomething young men trying to find themselves in a city of contrasts. With one foot in their parents' culture, the other foot in American culture, they were living in a ghetto that was notorious for riots in the 1980s. A ghetto that is a short drive to some of the most luxurious houses in the country (Star Island).

Their "cult leader", if you want to call him that, owned a small contracting business where he employed some of the other men. In fact, they were arrested at a job site in Miami.

Here is a paragraph from a Miami Herald article"

''Everything with Mr. Batiste seemed geared toward growing his company, building capacity to get jobs and employ people in the community,'' said Charles Wright, a consultant at Contractor's Resource Center on Biscayne Boulevard, which helps small firms, including Azteca.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/14891105.htm

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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:56 PM
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25. That is fucking RIDICULOUS.
They allegedly plotted to blow up the Sears tower, and they happen to be black.

We all know full well in the "post 9-11" world that if any group, regardless of race or background, tries to obtain explosives to blow up towers it's going to make the news. And their mugs shots are going to be in the papers. If they happen to be black, you are saying it is racist to publish the pictures at all? Are you saying the media has a moral duty to suppress the story just because they happen to be black?

The media and most of the public see them as would-be terrorists, but you see them only as "blacks"...Sounds a bit racist to me. It seems that you want to infantilize African-Americans, and give them the same kind of but-they-don't-know-any-better pass society gives juvenile offenders and the mentally disabled when it comes to crime.

You said "I know of a whole slew of white racist crazies right here in Kansas,"
and you want the government to round them up because they are "possible future terrorists"? Are we going to have Thought Police now to put people away before they commit the crime, and live in a brutal Orwellian totalitarian regime? I guess you have that in common with your boy bush.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:13 PM
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29. Hell I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
We all have our ridiculous opinions.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:19 PM
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31. Exactly!
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 04:27 PM by El Fuego
;)

I think the race side of this story is the fact that the accused feel so detached from American society that they think that they have to destroy it. It is because the republicans have created such a growing divide between rich and poor that this type of desperation and despair exists at home in America.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:12 PM
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27. They look more like a rap group than a religious group
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:13 PM
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28. Haitian, poor, non-english speaking, immigrants??gee, d'ya think?
It has EVERYTHING...:puke:

Just a bunch of poor guys, hanging out in a warehouse shooting their mouths off..It;s obvious they don;t know what they are doing.. Their "meet-up" with the "al qaeda rep" seems right out of SNL..

knock knock:

who's there?

al

al who?

al qaeda...

candygram
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:14 PM
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30. YO! YO! YO! BROTHERS IN THE HOOD!
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