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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:01 PM
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Why are most Repubs "Pro-War" ??
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 03:06 PM by kentuck
Think about it. It doesn't matter if we invade Grenada, Panama, Iran, or Canada - they will support it. They love war. Why? I think it is because they are trying to over-compensate because so few of them actually volunteer for military service, and especially combat? As John Murtha pointed out, they love to sit on their big fat behinds in air-conditioned office and tell everyone else how they should fight the war, but when they had their chance, they cut and run. If Bush announced today that our country was going to attack Syria or Iran or North Korea, I would bet that over 95% of the Republicans in both the House and Senate would cheer him on? They love war.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:02 PM
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1. Because they get a kick out of death, if it isn't their own.
And, like most cowards and bullies, their mouths are ten times bigger than their guts.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:26 PM
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12. Culture of Death
Indeed, I think it is true ... "they get a kick out of death."

Even their supposed 'pro-life' position on abortion is usually tinged with the expectation (excitement?) of punishing doctors or condemning the patient. Their alleged concern for families is counter-balanced by their desire to "try juveniles as adults" ... they seem to get a kick out of being tough and sending children to prison or to the death chamber.

Always remember Bush and Carla Fay Tucker --- always remember their glee over "shock and awe" --- always remember the Geneva Conventions as "quaint" --- always remember the radical Republicans and Bushites embracing a "Culture of Death."
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:03 PM
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2. It's the party of bullies
War is the perfect mellieu for bullies, people with a distinct lack of empathy, therefore, predisposed to cruelty.

You can see it not just in their support for war, *any* war, but also their insistance that people suffer without proper support in social services.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:05 PM
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3. War = big profits for big business
Which is what the GOP is all about.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:09 PM
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6. my exact same thoughts
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:57 PM
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18. Right. Actually, there are two kinds of Puggies.
Corporate war profiteers, and sheep. The former get rich(er) by pushing war, and the latter get to vicariously feel like wolves for a little while. They can run around with their cammies with their flags flapping on their cars, driving aggressively and talking about killing ragheads while fantasizing about running through ambushes in Baghdad.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 05:17 PM
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24. Bingo-it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY
Who will supply the logistics support, at ten times what it is worth? Who will make those boots, those vests, those idiotic fucking uniforms that look like pajamas? Who will make the helmets, the helmet liners, the socks and skivvies? Who will ship in the food, the fuel, the beans, the bullets? The medicine, the bandages, the operating room equipment, the refrigerated drawers for the morgue? Who will crank out the stupid HUMVEES, without armor, and who will make stick-on fer-shit armor to modify them? Which civilian security companies will broker absurd contracts? How about telephone companies? Electrical contractors? Building contractors? Money, money, everywhere! Jump in, friends, it's a LICENSE TO STEAL!!!!!!!

It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. And if they have to spill a little blood to get that dough...oh, well!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 05:26 PM
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25. Adding my assent to this one.
If there was anything I learned from protesting the Vietnam war, it's that BUSINESS is *always* behind it, racking in money like mad.

That's why there was so much research into which corporations were profitting the most, and boycotts organized. Don't know how effective that was, but it was the strategy of the era.

Remember all the rock-throwing at BofA's during that era? A big war profiteer.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:06 PM
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4. firstly the way they view the world is black and white
i think that is a commonality with republican attitude. good and bad. also you have a majority to be white and hteir is a sense of entitlement. they use that word with those that receive welfare, but they to exhibit that attitude. they tend to go the wrath of god old testament, opposed to the nuanced new testiment. if you think only in black and white, and there is a problem, what is resolution. the only one they can see is a fight. to come to a solution outside of war, would mean having to be in grey, to see all sides to compromise and find solution.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:07 PM
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5. Don't ya think it has anything to do with the fact that
WAR gives them a lot of opportunities to MAKE MONEY? OR in JR's case STEAL MONEY?
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:13 PM
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7. If the Dems don't support war/s...
Then why do we want Repubs to enter military service? Think about it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:19 PM
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9. Your premise is weak...
All Democrats are not against all wars. Not all Democrats are anti-war just as not all Repubs are "pro-war". However, the vast majority of Repubs are pro-war. But, it's the hypocrisy. Don't jump up and down yelling "I wanna kill! I wanna kill" unless you're willing to do it yourself. It's easy to send someone else to do it for you.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:14 PM
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8. Because THey have a Fantasy of Actually Fighting In One
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 03:15 PM by stepnw1f
just like a spectator in a spectator sport.... zeros need heroes.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:22 PM
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10. Because they hate post-birth life nt
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:22 PM
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11. on the whole,
Republicans are very childlike and self-centered.

Death doesn't mean much to them if it isn't affecting them directly.

It's like the Empathy chip that operates in many of us is defective in them.

This is how they are able to swallow the paradox that is War in one gulp. War results in Peace, right??? Wrong!!
War begets War.
Death begets Death.
That is all.

When someone they care about dies as a result of their War,
they either go into denial and use their loved-one as further fuel for the fire,

or they become Democrats...
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:48 PM
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15. I agree with your assessment about greed and narcissism but...
I struggle when I try to push it to make sweeping generalizations about war. Why? Although Libertarians share the same childish narcissistic tendencies, the same kind of rhetoric about cancerous individualism, but many of they oppose BushCo's war.

Personally, I think Repukes are of one mind for this war not because they are particularly fond of war, but because they sheepishly follow anyone that the party considers a leader. Republicans are authoritarians first, and above all. This is why Fundamentalism is so rampant in the party. Remember, these guys had nothing but disdain for Clinton's military action(s).
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:31 PM
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13. It's one of their "Values"....
The Democrats used to be the Party of "peace". Makes me nostaglgic for thiose days...

TC
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:54 PM
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17. I think it is, and this is sad because they are emotionally
infantile and cowards to boot. Those in my family that have been very successful (can't wait for their judgment day), are undereducated and bolster their self esteem (societal worth, by lying about their educational backgrounds). They are soo insecure in them selves that they seek to create their own reality (remind you of anyone?).

They talk all bravado because of their own pitiful lack of self-esteem. I have recently called my father a COWARD, because he was/is all pro-war (and confessed, he wouldn't go to VN, because he had children, DICK Chaney anyone?). They are COWARDS and need to be called COWARDS!

I was once approached to work on J Stars (by my uncle, project manager at Grumman), most will get it (what that was) , and denied the position. I was under the belief (this occurred in my mid 30's) that he actually was a full fledged engineer, not true.

These losers, that would lie, steal, cheat, whatever, because they lack any PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for doing the RIGHT thing are the ones that really get me PO'ed.

They come off as so brave in their rhetoric and yet most of them couldn't hold a candle to their little (old) daughters! They pansy's and will always be pansy's, talk is cheap!

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:43 PM
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14. FEAR. If it can't be understood without too much brain effort, eliminate
it.

Superiority, i.e., if it compromises way of life, or costs money then it can be eliminated (true with the environment and other areas).

Fear, greed and a huge sense of superiority.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:52 PM
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16. You are wrong, Republicans are not "pro-war"
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 04:19 PM by Tactical Progressive
You don't understand Republicans. The only thing they are pro is themselves. Money and power for themselves. If war is what makes them feel better and gives them the power of patriotism, then they are pro-war.

If this were Clinton or Gore or Kerry or Hillary who had forced us into this war with lies, Republicans would be screaming their lungs out and that's all you would be hearing in our Republican-controlled media - howls of 'liar' and 'traitor' and of course how much this is costing (them). Republicans would be, to a man and a woman, from the Senate down to the man in the street, livid beyond belief at the $400 billion price tag and the tens of thousands of Americans killed and maimed. A Dem President would have already been impeached in the media and politically in the 2004 election, if not in the Senate proper.

They object to anyone else exercising power and reaping spoils, be they monetary or political or just patriotic sanctimony, but themselves.

Before Bush they were of a single, united mind that "We are not the world's policeman." Now they're all for "spreading democracy" and believe that America is right to throw its weight around anywhere under any pretext. As long as it's their pretext. They didn't even support an air campaign in the Balkans to stop genocide. No help in Darfur. Their reasons are specious because there is no reasoning - you are just as likely to hear a Republican pontificate on 'spreading democracy' to help the poor people of the world with their glorious magnanimity, as you are to hear them say we should 'kill them all' - the ones they were so truly concerned about - the very next time they open their mouths. There is no reason or principle involved, only excuses for their need to exercise superiority.

It goes far beyond 9/11. It has to do with their complete sense of entitlement and massive attitude of self-righteousness: they are the only ones who have the god-given right to exercise power, and their right is both unlimited and unquestionable. You are a traitor for even thinking anything differently, whether you are starting a war or objecting to theirs, regardless of the reasons involved. They have every right to lie you into a war. They truly don't believe in democracy as anything more than a rubber stamp of their righteousness. They are America and anything else is just stealing from them.

Put a Democratic President and Congress in there for the next twelve years and see how many military actions they support. They won't even support giving food to starving people let alone expending hundreds of billions on war - that's their money being wasted on foreigners who should be dealing with their own problems.

Republicans aren't even principled enough to be 'pro-war', as perverted as that sounds on the face of it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:08 PM
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19. T P NAILS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
those hypocritical bastards would be HOWLING if a Democratic president had invaded Iraq based on a pack of LIES
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:16 PM
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22. I agree.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:14 PM
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21. You speak a lot of truth...
They are pro-war when one of theirs is in charge..
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 05:33 PM
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26. DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!
It's not about money, it's not about cost projections / gross domestic bullshit, or military service. Republicans are in it for themselves.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:10 PM
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20. Money for the stock that most of them don't own now, but may someday
when they are rich...because if you work hard, you TOO can become rich...and they ALL work hard..:sarcasm:
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 05:01 PM
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23. only pro-war when said war
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 05:01 PM by AmandaRuth
is started by a repub prez for the benefit of repub donors - not so hot on wars that truly benefit mankind in some way.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:39 PM
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27. Pro-War, Pro-Life, Pro-Guns, Pro-Death Penalty and Pro 'Prince of Peace'!
The insanity that these contradictions induce in a sensitive and sane mind have led me to the conclusion that Republicans either don't think, or they are all insane.

This question is excellent, and I would love to see an entire discussion on all of the many contradictions that this current Republican 'majority' believes in. Everything they stand for is a contradiction of one of their other professed beliefs, and everything they say is a lie. Yet, they love the Prince of Peace and Truth! This is madness to the extreme ultimate, and a greater indicator and barometer of the ultimate collapse of civilization as we know it, than is any other single issue. The Non Real is the new Reality. We have become a country that is not only run by insane criminals, but most of the population is insane, because they are too cowardly to analyze their own obvious incongruities.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 06:52 PM
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28. Because They Are IDIOTS.
Why are most Repubs pro-war??

Simple.

They are idiots.

They are idiots who mindlessly follow ANYTHING their "glorious leader" tells them.

If "stoopid son" told them that shit doesn't stink, they would believe him.

If "goofy georgy" told them to do ANYTHING, they would -- just because they have NO thoughts -- they only know how to do what they are told.

They are like the Germans of the 1930's and 1940's.

That is why we MUST -- simply MUST -- get them out of power. NOW!!!!
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