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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:44 PM
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VIDEO: Bill Clinton Addresses 1992 Democratic Convention
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 08:51 PM by Yollam
VIDEO:

http://c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=bill+clinton+1992&image1.x=0&image1.y=0&image1=Submit



If you watch this, it's pretty clear that there was no doubt in Bill Clinton's mind that he is going to WIN. As a viewer, you can sense it too.


I never had that feeling watching Sen. Kerry accepting his nomination in 2004.


THIS is the stuff we need. Not the DLC or the right-leaning policies, but the easy gracefulness, the confidence, the decency and humanity.

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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:49 PM
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1. The link doesn't work.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:51 PM
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4. Try it now.
Sorry about the link.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:50 PM
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2. he had charisma
can you fix the link?:)
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:51 PM
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3. as much i came to loathe bill during his terms
clinton's 1992 campaign themes cemented the ideals of liberalism into a then 15 year-old me
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:52 PM
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5. It was campaigning where he really shined.
Unfortunately that he governed so much like a moderate republican. But in comparison to the present occupant of the White House, he was a knight in shining armor.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:48 PM
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12. yep-pity he didn't stick by his campaign persona
Instead we got GOP scumbag and toe-sucker of whores, Dick Morris, dictating policy to appease Newt and company.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:05 PM
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7. Loathe him?
What was there about 8 years of peace, prosperity and progress in the US that discomfited you?
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:46 PM
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11. for starters, two words: mark rich
pardoning that ken lay-esque scumbag is completely and utterly unforgiveable. Incidentally, Rich's lawyer: Scooter Libby.

as for bill's record.- thanks to NAFTA, GATT, the telecommunications bill and the rest-the rightwing was able to take such complete and total control. Bill laid the foundations for Dubya's house (according to Reagan's blueprints)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:54 PM
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6. Clinton won BECAUSE OF KERRY'S work ripping at Poppy Bush for his entire
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 08:56 PM by blm
term.

Could Clinton have won with a media protecting Bush1 24/7 the way they do Bush2?

Could Clinton have won in 92 if 4 years of bad headlines on IranContra, BCCI, and Iraqgate hadn't eroded the trust between Bush1 and the American people?

And then what does Clinton do? Close the books to protect Poppy Bush and fucked over the rest of the Democrats, the country and the world by allowing BushInc to stay safe and GROW STRONGER.

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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:13 PM
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8. Man, talk about your revisionism.
I don't remember ANY headlines about Iran/Contra or BCCI after Bush Sr. took office (He later issued pardons for several Iran/Contra figures)

The press was not tough on Bush Sr. at all. He lacked Reagan's appeal, though, and as the debt-inflated Reagan economy lost steam, he lost popularity. Not knowing how a supermarket scanner worked made him look out of touch. So then he concocted a war with his pal Saddam, who he ENTICED into invading Kuwait through his proxy April Glaspie. The US media dutifully hyped the war, just as they would in 2003, and Bush's approval ratings went through the roof. Too bad for him, it was a year too early. The economy continued to sputter, with highunemployment and racial unrest culminating in the LA riots.


Clinton was an incredible campaigner and Perot helped to inflame dissatisfaction with Bush sr. Giving Kerry credit for Clinton's victory is about the biggest stretch in credibility I've heard since the one Bush told about the balsa wood gliders Saddam was going to use to drop an H-Bomb on Atlanta.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:23 PM
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9. Wrong, even William Safire was writing columns CRITICAL of Bush's dealings
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 09:26 PM by blm
I think you don't have the EXACT memories of what was going on in the media at the time, alot of us were paying attention to Lawrence Walsh and his findings - maybe you were only watching Bill, but there was a REASON Bush adopted the campaign slogan, Annoy the media - Re-elect Bush.

Try google. Hell - even Katie Couric made news during that time when she cornered Poppy on an IranContra revelation about him being IN THE LOOP during a WH walkaround she was having with Babs.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:34 PM
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10. I'm not saying it wasn't covered - just that people didn't care.
They didn't care about it during the hearings when Reagan was in office. Hell, they tried to make a hero out of Ollie North.


Iran/Contra was a disgraceful crime, probably mostly masterminded by Bush Sr. himself, but it NEVER stuck in the consciousness of the people or aroused much outrage, except among liberals and some of the media.

I wish that wasn't the case, but it was. For chrissakes, all of that was out and Bush still won the 88 election handily over the amazingly uninspiring Dukakis. If anything Iran/Contra was fresher and more controversial in '88. By the time '92 rolled around, it was old news and nobody REALLY cared anymore.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:52 PM
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13. That's BALONEY - IranContra NEWS was happening DAILY with indictments and
revelations going on throughout - did you forget about Weinberger, his diaries, and the fact that Bush was being pumped for HIS DIARY? You really have forgotten alot.

IranContra was BLISTERING Bush in 92 through Walsh's efforts to take them to trial after the election, why do you THINK Poppy Bush pardoned them all BEFORE a 93 trial?

And BCCI the bank was finally CLOSED in 92, providing MORE headlines. And Iraqgate was heating up in 92 - I think you have completely forgotten the dynamics of the time. No way can you compare the media climate Clinton had with the media climate Gore had and then the post 9-11 media climate more known as BushFest.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:59 PM
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14. You must be immersed in Wonkland somewhere.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 10:09 PM by Yollam
Sorry, but where I lived, everyday people did NOT CARE about what was going on with I/C or BCCI. They didn't understand the story and it wasn't sexy.

The LA riots did Bush a great deal more damage than Iran/Contra. It cemented Bush's image as ineffective and unable to deal with crime and the economic mess he and Reagan had created.


The evolution of media from center-right-leaning in the early 90's to right-leaning during Clinton, then outright propagandistic since 9-11 is another story.

Why do I think Poppy pardoned everyone? To save his cronies, and to save his own skin. But regular Americans didn't care about it. I'm sorry, but they just didn't.


EDIT: Corrected to say "wonkland"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:26 AM
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16. Even if you didn't care, the news was still out there every day providing
the "climate" by which Bush1 was being judged.

Bush2 had corpmedia telling the people how great, honest, stoic, and what a straightshooter he was.

And, oh yeah, you're absolutely right on LA riots, I mentioned that here myself about a month ago. It was a determining factor. A manmade Katrina, in a way.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:54 AM
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17. *I* *DID* *CARE*
I did nothing but yell at my friends at the time -HELLO! THIS PERSON SOLD WEAPONS TO OUR TERRORIST ENEMIES TO GIVE THE MONEY TO CENTRAL AMERICAN DEATH SQUADS!!!


For the most part, I got nothing but glass-eyed stares. I cared. Activists cared. Wonks...well they paid attention, anyway.

But the American people were all caught up in Milli Vanilli's grammy being taken away, and Vanilla Ice being a fraud, and the Loma Prieta quake and whether or not Dan Quayle could spell potato, etc.

Where was the outrage? Where were the 100,000 person marches demanding that Bush step down for being a traitor? There were none. Hell, there was more anger at directed at Cardinal O'Connor's opposition to condoms than there was at Bush, and once Gulf War 1 started, the yellow ribbons came out, and all was forgotten.

Clinton ran on "it's the economy, stupid", not "The Gipper and Poppy sold us out to a bunch of Persian terrorists!".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:57 AM
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18. The collective "you" - still, the American people's TRUST was broken with
the continuing bad headlines - had Bush1 been given Bush2's media climate, he could have survived the economy issue with that trust.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:08 PM
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15. We need to stop rehashing the past and look to the future
That's what Rove likes and wants.
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