Noah's Ark discovered

Has Noah's Ark Been Found?

Christian Archaeology Team Believes It's Found Biblical Remains

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/has-noahs-ark-been-found/20060629173309990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


Two things in particular that bother me about the article:


1. As usual it's not an un-biased archaeological team, it's a team that obviously has an agenda. Why do I say this? Because of the other thing that bothers me about the article:

2. "There's this idea, if we can prove that the Ark existed then we can prove that the story existed, and more importantly, we can prove that God existed," said Bruce Feiler, author of "Where God Was Born."


I am a cynic by nature when it comes to Christians who delve into science in order to "prove"
their beliefs. The next sentence I see coming after "...we can prove God existed" is "...so therefore we can prove we were right all along and our beliefs and the Bible should trump all other testaments, spiritual laws, and social doctrine on the planet."

Also, the existence of an ark will not prove anything more than the fact that an ark existed.

But that's just me.

Why are they so defensive ??

facts is part of presenting the Bible as a truthful document to the world. Just like gathering evidence for a trial.

The Zarquawi.

:sarcasm:



What do you think about the story of Noah's Ark?
It's fact 69%
It's fiction 31%
Total Votes: 388,826



Do you think the object that this team found is Noah's Ark?
No 52%
Yes 48%
Total Votes: 356,322

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Jeeze, there are so many desperate people on the internet nowdays. They need something to believe in so badly that they'll swallow ANYTHING.

It is a sad state of affairs that almost 70% of people could think such a ridiculous fable is true.

Middle East. It's entirely possible there were a few prepared and technologically savvy ancients who were able to build a vessel to withstand the various floods that occured around the world thousands of years ago.

That such an occurance would come down to us in mythic and encoded forms is entirely consistent with how human beings think, communicate and operate.

on it.

Get real...

btw- after the ark landed, and there were two of everything- wouldn't the predators be all that was left in a couple of days...?

especially if that included a couple of really hungry t-rex's.

he beget McDonald's who now grinds up parts of any and all beasts of this earth for their burgers.

My recollection is that several cultures other than Jews have stories of a great flood and an ark. I don't think finding an ark will prove much of anything, other than that the ark was too small to have 2 of all species.

There were similar stories. The one in the bible is related to a regional occurence so two of every animal would probably not be too many. From the writer's perspective in the bible the world was a much smaller place.

I don't doubt the biblical account nor other cultures' accounts. It would be interesting to see if we found other arks/boats from said cultures as well to me.

The bible is one account of god interacting with human kind in one specific way, many also believe that god did similar such things with other groups (indians, et al) on various levels. The difference lays with the NT. The thought is that god chose one group to bring a savior from, but did not exclude others from contact/miracles/etc. What all cultures had a problem with (to some extent) was death and the afterlife, the drive then was to tell others the 'good news' (gospel) that god loved us all and found a way to overcome it (this goes back to sin and lucifer, a long standing battle, and the legality if you will of satan being cast out. Satan sinned of his own accord, then tricked man into the same thing so we would get the same punishment. God being consitent as he is satan thought he had won, but god never said who had to die so he came here as Jesus, lived without sin, took the punishment and the equation was balanced).

At any rate, that's my thought on it all :)

But we all know Satan is responsible for this.

from an engineering point of view.

you can only build wooden boats so big...

do you know why? sounds like interesting science

http://www.infidels.org/ is a good place to start

or google, of course... but you can access that from the infidel home page as well.

Note that they describe an "obviously man-made" object made out of petrified wood. That alone should alert anyone to question the source.

if they did does that mean they are entirely new species since they obviously didn't get off to multiply and replenish the earth?

:sarcasm:

Doesn't this happen every year or so? Its like Al Qaeda's number two man. I guess those guys are all in the same boat.

Was at the top of Mt Ararat in Turkey? Now they're saying it's in Iran? Geez, can't they get their stories straight?

And frankly, given the plethora of flood stories populating old mythologies, complete with arks of various descriptions, how in the hell are they going to be able to say with any degree of certainty that this is *Noah's* ark, as opposed to an ark that belonged to a Greek, Nordic or Chinese person?

Sorry, but this is more faith driven bullshit, not real science.

is not in Turkey but in Armenia, the Turks apparently think Mt. Ararat is their possession but the symbolic mountain is on Armenian soil. You can research it if you want, research some old maps of Armenia and you will see. Regarding Noah's ark, there are many articles and accounts that the fable is true!

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

Ararat must be filthy with arks.

It WOULD be in Iran though... can't bomb it now. :rofl:

And how would it petrify in a few thousand years?

And, for that matter, why would Noah build a wooden boat in the shape of a natural mountaintop rock outcropping?

Ya gotta have faith, I suppose:shrug:

Frankly I think it's all a load of hooey. What I think would really be a hoot is if they dig the thing up, and run across a placard stating "This boat belongs to Nguyen Wi" Wouldn't that throw some people a curve:rofl:

:eyes:

Didn't they find it on some mountaintop last time? I'd like to know what kind of wood Noah used to make that ark; I'll use it for my deck.

claiming they had discovered the ark... again!

:eyes:

They also found the hiding place of the tooth ferry, and indisputable evidence that pigs can fly.

The delusional desperate to give their fairy tales some credibility.

As guaranteed Bush supporters they should cross on over to the front lines once they're done with their fundy digging.

outside in my lawn, standing next to the birdfeeder.

This is absolutely fascinating and I look forward to hearing more about it. They said it's petrified wood and has sea life in it so who knows? Maybe it is the Ark. :shrug:

Hopefully more results come back soon. It would be interesting to know how old it is.

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I swear at least 10 times in my lifetime when someone claims they found Noah's Ark. But even if they did actually find it, wouldn't it actually prove that Gilgamesh was real?

what a crock of shit

finding piles of old wood that they say is the ark. The ark didn't exist except in the mind of the bard who told the story and that's the real fact. The story is absurd except that the story was told to generate interest in the tale of an ancient (but not worldwide) flood that happened.

I can see it now. The ancient shepherds are sitting around the campfire while one of the story teller's tells them of a time in past memory when a huge rainstorm and flood wiped out most of the species and humans of that world.

Some little kid then says, "But how did we all come back?"

So the story teller says, "Well there was a man named Noah and this is what he did."