An Apology To Ken Lay's Wife. I Am Sorry. Seriously.

I am sorry that you married one of the biggest criminals in American history and bore him kids.

I am sorry that once you did, you never did the honest thing and walked away from the millions and millions in ill gotten gains.

I am sorry that you did not convince your husband to plead guilty right off and return all of the damn money he stole.

I am sorry that you did not walk out on his ass the second you knew what thieving scum you were married to.

I am sorry that you have not been prosecuted for possession of stolen goods.

So many regrets...

The dude's dead. Leave the poor woman alone.

As long as she it, she is deserving of our collective scorn.

His death changes nothing about that.

When she returns the stolen money of her own free will, I'll apologize for being "tacky".

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When she returns the stolen money of her own free will, I'll apologize for being "tacky".

Is she a good Christian woman? Or will Bush call her a person as good as Kenny too?

And, yeah, if she does do the right thing, you bet I'll be as loud and as supportive as humanly possible.

So I doubt that every thing that they attained in their lives was ill gotten. Can she at least keep what was not ill gotten? If she was part of his crime she should have been prosecuted from the jump, no? If not, than only the ill gotten gains should be taken from her.

You could tell he'd been whupped on by that picture!

KABOOM!:nuke:

in other countries demanding to see pictures of dead bad guys and then STILL believe the bad guys weren't dead! That's how it went with Saddam's sons. NOW I understand. I really do. Has he been cremated yet? If the casket is open, I want to know whose body that is that someone performed plastic surgery on to make it look like Lay. I don't think I'll ever believe he's dead.

and just laughing his head off.

his wife is probably on the way there.

of staff, David S. Addington, the lawyer who cooked up all this fascist authority for the "executive", sat down one night and figured all this out for Kenny-boy.

She certainly will be living off Kenny's ill-gotten gains ... and possibly insurance money too ... because legally, he didn't do anything wrong.

If he really is dead, then sympathy is the last thing these crooks deserve ... they destroyed the lives and savngs and retirements of thousands of people.

And, now, Ken Lay will be declared innocent of the crimes he was convicted of -- it is so unjust -- in a cosmic kind of way. If I were one of Lay's victims, I would be terribly frustrated and angry at his death.


And never forget the havoc that Lay and his gang at Enron caused in California in 2001. The path of devastation caused by this criminal element supported by Bush and Cheney is ... well, it is stunning in its breadth and depth.

Is your OP tacky? Probably. Do I agree with it? No.

Never, ever, ever. Once someone buys into that, they rapidly become what they are fighting against.

I said that she was deserving of the kind of scorn she has gotten.

I'll repost:

"As long as she it, she is deserving of our collective scorn.

His death changes nothing about that.

When she returns the stolen money of her own free will, I'll apologize for being "tacky"."

She has agency here. She had the ability to end such attacks by returning the stolen money she living it up on.

What does that have to do with ends and means? I'm not trying to be rude. I'm genuinely confused by the statement.

She and their children have remaining assets that are protected from legal action, including civil suits. All of them will live the rest of their lives in luxury that can only be imagined by most of us. She is certainly not a "poor woman". She is filthy rich, living in opulence on the money that Kenny boy made at the expense of former Enron employees and shareholders.

Let me know when she has to take a job at Wallmart like the rest of us whould have to do. :nopity:

". . . But during his testimony, Lay ended up coming across as irritable and combative.

He also sounded arrogant, defending his extravagant lifestyle, including a $200,000 yacht for wife Linda’s birthday party, despite $100 million in personal debt and saying “it was difficult to turn off that lifestyle like a spigot.”'

is word that anyone can use to describe Mrs. Lay.

"My favorite Ken Lay story is that he bought his wife a $200,000 boat while they were already $100 million in debt. His explanation was “It’s hard to just turn that kind of lifestyle off.” That was the moment I believed his defense – that he was so frickin’ stupid he didn’t know he was a thief."

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/

HARD WORK!

Linda Lay has has a rough go of it. Tell that
to some of the Enron employees left without. Not knowing how they will pay for their
next months perscriptions.

About the prospect of losing SOME of her homes. If they were vacationing in Aspen apparently she still has at least two.

Let her move to a one bedroom (two if there are minor kids) and GET A JOB and give the money to the people whose pensions were bilked from them.

see no reason to sympathize with this accomplice who cried on the Today Show about how BROKE they were!!

She can throw herself on his pyre!

...now drop it. Can't you see the poor woman's trying to pack her bags for Fiji?

for aiding and abetting, harboring a felon, and a multitude of other charges that would be brought on common folks.

okay, the guy was slime, and is wife probably is too . . . but what good does it do to bash them when he's dead (supposedly) and she obviously has the moral standards of seaweed? . . .

let's put our creativity to work solving problems that we can actually do something about . . .

But I will add:

She is still living on the stolen money of some who shot themselves in the freaking head when they lost it. She should return the money. When she does, I'll be happy to retract all of the sentiments in the OP.

Should I have felt bad for the wife of Al Capone when he died?

nor a kind word for these thieves. As you said she can return the stolen money.

Sp.

There was this show about an old time mobster, can't remember which one, but the point is the guy was as powerful as Al Capone, and they were doing a documentary on his life. The guy was long gone so they had to take testimonials from the people who knew him. Among that list was his last mistress/girlfriend/common-law-wife. She was an old broad by the time the documentary took place. Maybe in her sixties and it was hard to say if she was a looker in her time, but apparently so. Anyway, that woman talked about the guy like he was Adonis returned from the heavens. She was seduced by the power, his arrogance and knew all about his criminal exploits. She seemed to get off on it. Even in her sixties, she talked like there was nothing wrong that she was attracted to a living plague on this planet.

Sympathy? Compassion? I have as much for her as they did for the people they exploited. You know the number we'll never know? We'll never know the number of divorces or suicides that occurred because of the human misery they caused other people.

The whole story is an example of widespread, if not universal, corruption and greed of CEOs and other senior management of public corporations in the US. The Boards of Directors are complicit in schemes to enrich themselves and senior management at the expense of shareholders and employees.

For example, the ratepayers in California are still paying dearly for his crimes.

Fuck the Lays

while people in Houston have been evicted from the only home they ever had and I have no sympathy for him or his wife... If he would of made any kind of a gesture to help those out most affected by the Enron scandal, I would be more forgiving... But as it is.. 200,000 for her Bday party while those who worked for the company for years live on dog food....

If all the predatory capitalists begin to understand that their families will share the acrimony from society for their mis-deeds, these white collar criminal excesses just might begin to curtail.

I'm tacky and tasteless, and I'm with ya.

A few words in the blogosphere are nothing compared to the damage people of this sort inflict upon the planet.

Or, worse, words in support of actions.

that a good man is gone.

good men and women he's sent to their deaths.

for the "ghoulish asshole" :D

:thumbsdown:

Wow! That's quite an indictment. :wow:

But can the 'Phelps Five' do the hustle as well as Fred? :)

I guess it's a pretty fine line between recommending a DU thread
and forcing preschoolers to parade around carrying signs
that say 'God hates fags'.

Personally, I don't think so. After all, I walk on all fours, I'm furry, I have a tail, I vote for Democrats, I contribute to DU... I doubt if any Phelps would do that!

:wtf:

Bring out the long knives! :wtf:

Your lack of logic is disturbing.

Read 'em and weep.

:patriot:

I believe President Bush got 59 MILLION recommendations.

Say my art sucked? What?

"I believe President Bush got 59 MILLION recommendations." - What does this mean?

What is your problem with DA?

What did he do to deserve such angry responses from you?

I've seen you attack him before but I have never understood why.

"Say my art sucked? What?"

Nope.


"'I believe President Bush got 59 MILLION recommendations.' - What does this mean?"

It means that recommendations don't make the OP a good post any more than 59 million votes (if that - I'm from Ohio, so lord only knows how many it really was, but still, that's roughly the official number, and it's the only number we have) makes GWB a good leader. You see, you were saying that it's OK to be a ghoulish asshole as long as you make the greatest page (I *think* that's what you were saying, anyway). I beg to differ.


"What is your problem with DA?"
"What did he do to deserve such angry responses from you?"

Right now my problem should be clear to anyone who reads my above posts.


"I've seen you attack him before but I have never understood why."

I doubt that. As I said above, it's been a LOOOOOONG time since I've engaged him in discussion.

this is very far from the friist time you have walked in the door swinging with your attacks on me.

Don't play all innocent now.

"You see, you were saying that it's OK to be a ghoulish asshole as long as you make the greatest page (I *think* that's what you were saying, anyway)." - I never said, "it's OK to be a ghoulish asshole as long as you make the greatest page." You were the one who called DA a "ghoulish asshole." I was just repeating it to him in jest. Go ahead and ask him now, here in this thread, if he thinks I was joking or not.

Well, I'm glad you corrected a typo and didn't call me names. All I did was recommend his thread because I think it is prescient.

"Right now my problem should be clear to anyone who reads my above posts." - No, it is not clear why you reacted so venomously against DA, for whatever reason.

"I doubt that. As I said above, it's been a LOOOOOONG time since I've engaged him in discussion." - You can doubt me all you want, but let me inform you that although I am only a tiny rodent, I have the memory of a large elephant. :)

You assume dubby really got that many votes

I think you are wrong on a few counts including bad photoshops and poor ms Lay.

The rich hoe will be fine withour DU's respect.
:dem:

Now, go defend your nonsense upstairs.

I would trust the DU counter more. :shrug:

I'm sorry to heer that Ole Kenny Boy, whom I hardly knowed cashed in his chips tuther day. I'm shuore you no that a hard man is good to find! I no a feller name of Rush Lameballs who is single and wuzz wonderin' if you'd like to meat him. I can range everthang ASAP if'n you like. Jest git on one of ole Kenny's planes and fly to Warshinton DC and gimme a call. I keep a nice room over at the Watergate jest for all my friends and love ones to use when they come ta town.

Yore ole friend
The pResidunce

PS: If-n you ever need a helpin hand a-tallyin' up ole Kenny's Boy's cash I'm a good hand at fuzzy cipherin' and sech and I kin rite readin' an read ritin' too!

Got all caught up with the attacks up top I missed this!

Your imagery here:

http://erectionfraud.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

I deeply appreciate your taking the time from the War on Terror to send me such a beautiful letter. I was very touched by it. As you know, Ken was so proud of you when you were elected Governor, and he felt very privileged to be THE No. 1 pioneer in your presidential campaign. Ken always valued your help, especially in nominating Pat Wood to the FERC and in numerous other matters. Here in Aspen, things are going as well as can be expected. The cost of living here makes it hard to keep good staff, but we'll manage... Blah Blah... Again, thank you for the tip on Rush. You know, Ken always said I was a good Lay.

Affectionately,
Linda

Let her "cry" in her diamond crusted widow's weeds. She owes not only the people of California and Texas, but people all over the world (like that community in India who had a totally inappropriate energy plant foisted upon them) their damn money back.

I can only hope they didn't breed. :scared:

You have my permission to link this in your thread about how hateful I am.

At least, I actually said something in this one.


(note for NO: Proper use of commas.)

When she even makes an attempt at compensating the people that her thieving husband stole from, even a token offer, I may find some small sympathy for her.
Until then, she and the rest of the thieving bastards that support the thieving bastards that stole our country have nothing but my scorn and hatred I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

And yes, I read your comment on that point. I disagree. I think this stomping on a some widow, no matter who her husband was, is shameful.

from my public utilities. Our state had to sue Enron so we didn't have to repay the exorbitant fees Enron charged us for our own water generated electricity they stole from us. I had to pay a 50% surcharge so my local public utility could remain solvent. I'm still paying it.

I wouldn't shed a tear if that bitch sat in the dark boohooing in her mansion until doosmday. Let her move into a homeless shelter. Even then, sympathy for the homeless residents would take priority over the whore whose feathered nest full of shit is brimming over.

Bring her to justice. Put her face on a "most wanted" card. Show me the corpse. Just like Uday and Qusay, because her husband was no different. As Woody Guthrie once said, "Some will rob you with a sixgun, others with a pen." Fuck the Lays.

excerpt from tapes made by former Enron employees at the height of the brownouts in California:

"They're fucking taking all the money back from you guys? All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?"

"Yeah, grandma Millie, man."

"Yeah, now she wants her fucking money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her ass for fucking $250 a megawatt hour."

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