Is Ken Lay dead or is it yet another hoax?? no follow up by media

Simply the announcement of Kenny-boy's death to to a massive heart attack.
No autopsy of a man of his immense wealth,-- anyone seen footage of Mr.Lay being removed to be taken to the Funeral Parlor or the morgue? -- no interviews by the paramedics' or anyone directly involved with the removal of Lay, the media simply went with startling front page "facts" of the death.

The fact that nothing more was uncovered or reported on is questionable in itself -- however they did mention that Lay (for sure) would be cremated dispelling any notion that there was indeed foul-play such as a conveniently planned staging of fake your death to avoid jailtime scenario.

Can any news organization name one person (outside the family)to verify in fact that yes, Kenneth Lay is dead?? --> like a policeman, S-o-m-e-b-o-d-y!

More than half a million hits. :eyes:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ken+Lay+%2B+autopsy&btnG=Google+Search

"A coroner says an autopsy showed severe coronary artery disease caused his death."
http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5124868&nav=168Y

It's always possible that a coroner could be paid off. :shrug:

Ken is probably alive and well living with his billions in Dubai.

Nobody dies on the BFEE watch without their permission.

:tinfoilhat: and :crazy:

used to discuss this at Steve's Rustic Lodge.

his 'heart attack' very early on the morning of July 5th, and arrived at the hospital at 3.00am. You can assume that few people were around from July 4th. His pastor told MSM that he had a heart attack so the very urgent autopsy should really have been unnecessary.

As more than a few news sites mentioned the apparentheart attack, and no less than Drudge mentioned the 'suicide' word, they brought in a coroner from outside (the regular coroner was conveniently out of town. Of course it was a heart attack although said coroner did say that toxicology and tissue sample tests had not taken place as yet.

Kenny boy was quickly cremated and his great christian life will now be celebrated with two services.

That the media is not raising serious questions re timing, and other strange coincidences speaks volumes. Kenny boy after all stole millions and had just been sent to prison. The more silence from MSM, the more rational people will remain suspicious. This is just too fugging neat. Where is the FBI and all the forensic experts. Where is the fugging proof that Kenny Boy is dead. Those he robbed need to have proof.

they "knew" there would be questions. And, just why would there be questions.

If this had been a Democrat you better believe the media would be all over this with follow up. But, just like with Philip Merrill's strange "suicide" off his boat last month (with anchor around his legs and a shotgun wound to his head) there is no media coverage. I don't think I ever saw a report on the news about Philip Merrill. This does make both deaths seem very suspicious.

If they are so bold now that they think they can get away with this stuff then I expect we will see more odd deaths in the coming years. One even wonders about Colin Powell's illness in Aspen while dining with Bill Clinton in the light of these suspicious goings on. Maybe it was a "warning" to Powell. After all Libby did warn about the "Aspens turning."

dedicating hours to disappearances of missing white girls.
Powell should consider himself very lucky

Edit - add.

out of town..it is vacation season. I can buy that. I would hope they would save his DNA to check it.

CEOs and other con-artists are going to be 'dropping' like flies.

Especially, if there is no investigation of the Lay case and he's seen
to 'get-away-with-it'... Even if he is dead.

Dang, I went into the wrong business. I could've been a plastic surgeon!

the man died...case closed.

Not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy

Before you dismiss it.

I will remind you... Lay was convicted of "10 counts of C-O-N-S-P-R-A-C-Y and F-R-A-U-D".

So, this is an extension of an existing conspiracy.

all concerned if Kenny-boy meet his maker...NOW! wouldn't want Lay running his mouth off like Abramohh now would we being that Dick Cheney fits nicely into the scope of things.

Not by a long shot.

There are entire books written about people who've been 'disappeared'.

Lay, who never thought he'd be convicted, was going to appeal. Given the complexity of the trial and the appeal process, it likely would be at least a year before he actually started serving his sentence...and that if and only if the appeal was not overturned.

As arrogant and egotistical as Lay was, I'd be willing to bet that he believed the appeal would go in his favor. And the last horse I bet on paid back $13.80 on a $3 bet.

Lay didn't like the whole 'IDEA' of being convicted... It caused him 'hardship'.

He was apparently an impatient sort, he wanted it over NOW! There are plenty of
others who agreed with that assessment.

Much easier to get on with business than to go through a trial in the 'Activist
Courts'. Much cheaper as well. Remember, these guys are all about $$$.

he can't do it dead. The conviction stands. He wanted to be cleared on appeal.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2006/07/06/lay-thurs.html

"The death of Enron Corp. founder Kenneth Lay will likely cause his conviction to be erased from the record, experts said Thursday."

"The law views it as though he had never been indicted, tried and convicted," Theus said.

.........

David Berg, a Houston civil litigator, said all that's left is a bureaucratic process in which Lay's lawyers can file his death certificate, asking Lake to vacate the convictions. If Lake complies as expected, Lay would no longer be a felon.

"His lawyers will move to set aside the conviction, and it'll be done. The slate is wiped clean," Berg said."

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That's even BETTER then having it overturned on appeal. Now, officially, he was never even INDICTED.

Is your :tinfoilhat: comfortable?

The bad publicity he received over the trial and verdict remains as his legacy. Had he been exonerated in a successful appeal, he'd be known as the man falsely accused and ultimately cleared.

I'm convinced. :nopity:

It's true, not everything is a conspiracy, but not everyone is convicted of stealing millions and destroying the future of so many people. Besides, facing life in prison when one is filthy rich, and accustomed to lying on the beach or on their yacht with everything at their beck and call; this could be very tempting. We know he would never be pursued like one of us would. What's a little old million dollar makeover to a rich cat like Kenny?

:smoke: :smoke:

conspiracy, but we are talking some of the biggest crooks, liars, thieves and thugs around. nothing should be taken at face value with them.

nothing would bring on a heart attack in an elderly man with heart disease faster than the prospect of spending the rest of his life in jail.

Just a thought... he maybe actually did die. It happens all the time.

Maybe one of his many financial victims can sue to get DNA testing done. It is important that Lay not get away with faking his own death, if that is what happened.

it isn't unreasonable to speculate that this "death" was a well-planned, flawlessly executed hoax. Holiday weekend, middle of the night, remote venue, hurried cremation. Here's a scam artist who built an empire out of whole cloth and stole millions. Then, when an army of lawyers couldn't keep him out of jail, he, with the help of friends in high places, arranges to be whisked away for life to a remote, luxurious, secure location. A different kind of prison, but one much more to his liking.

and did what big money does best, fake the death, especially keep media attention to a level of letting Larry King do a retrospect of the beloved Mr.Lay (Larry King Show> laughs at the idea that it was mentioned that perhaps Lay faked his own death)

I don't care either way - as long as I never have to see his face again.

one way or the other, as I said yesterday we're still arguing iver whether outlaws were really killed in the 1880's, though they are certainly dead now.
The same way kenny boy will be one day, it bothers me that he cheated justice, but he's not going to get out of this alive.

If there is a hell, he is surely stewing in it now. Let it go. Really.

His wife will join him there, after a year or so.