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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:44 PM
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Environment in Crisis: 'We Are Past the Point of No Return'
The world has already passed the point of no return for climate change, and civilisation as we know it is now unlikely to survive, according to James Lovelock, the scientist and green guru who conceived the idea of Gaia - the Earth which keeps itself fit for life.

In a profoundly pessimistic new assessment, published in today's Independent, Professor Lovelock suggests that efforts to counter global warming cannot succeed, and that, in effect, it is already too late.

link

Did Bush know about this ?

We humans will all die because of this.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:45 PM
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1. We're going to die? *GASP* I'm shocked!
We all die at some point.

We just never figured out the importance of the environment... well, we did by 1970. And even then people didn't stop not caring.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:11 AM
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3. Hilarious pic
and can imagine episode.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:12 PM
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2. what about the creator?
conceding that it's possible there aint no creator and the universe is a random event occuring over eternity, still IF there is a Creator, who ultimately created all this, and each of us personally, for some reason, possibly connected to human religious beliefs(?) Christians should be those leading the battle to fight bush, and pollution, and corruption and war, but mostly, CHRISTIANS, having heard Jesus say he was one with the Creator, should be the most ruthless and relentlessness in fighting to preserve this life-place here on earth, because it's possible there aint no other, not even one, and unless they (we) are 100 percent certain, they (we) should act like this earth is only life in existence, and the creator dies if man dies....which looks like it could happen, here on earth, anyway....
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Ben Ceremos Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:50 AM
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5. Flame on!!!
The vast majority of Christians can't think independently, won't act on their convictions and are worthless sheep in synthetic wool...if anybody needs salvation, it would be them with their fucked up view of life...apoplectic fit coming on...must go!!! grrrr fucking christians!!!
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:59 AM
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7. There are a lot of Christians who are fighting hard for the environment.
But the right wing evangelicals have done a really good job of convincing everyone in America that they are the only true Christians.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/env_greening_evangelicals_post_feb6_05.htm
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:16 AM
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4. Even as a progressive, I found this article to be unhinged and ...
the author, delirious. Let's not be lemmings to trolls like this, folks.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:28 AM
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6. I scientist I know in the Antarctic has been studying climate change
for well over 40 years. His predictions have been coming true-fifty years before he thought they would. It's all happening so rapidly that he now worries that the planet may be close to uninhabitable by 2050 for the vast majority of life on earth.

But we'll ignore all the warnings, call them hysterical, delusional fantasy, as our industrial rulers wish us to... and the hurricanes will come faster, the droughts weill become severe, the flooding will overwhelm various areas, and soon the oxygen will run short as the ocean's flora and the world's rainforests vanish. It's not a matter of "if" anymore, it's "how soon"?
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:33 PM
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8. The Earth's getting a little warmer, but your scenario is absurd. n/t
n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:43 PM
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9. Not my scenario, a seasoned scientist's
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 02:53 PM by Lorien
read up about it; you'll find hundreds of articles in foreign publications. The absurdity is pretending that you've got decades of time on your side, that it won't effect YOU in your lifetime. I can assure you; it will.

But go ahead, jeer at "my" scenario. You'll wake up eventually.

Just a small sampling of what's out there:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0329-01.htm

http://class.cldstar.com/engl102_spring2004/articles-to-use/alaska-warming/16ALAS.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/4218441.stm

and, as Bill Moyers says about this topic "what we don't report would truly terrify you".
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:10 AM
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10. kick for info
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