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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:23 PM
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Wonder why Ed Schultz is all about Lieberman? Here it is...
I've been telling you on this site some time, Ed is ALL about getting Hillary elected.
He just said it himself, just now on the radio; Lieberman's position on the war parrallels that of Hillary.

This is, as Ed likes to say: ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. That is where'd Ed's backing come from...one doesn't have to look far on the internet to read about how he may be tied to Hillary.

So, he must tout Lieberman. If he can get us to accept Lieberman's positions, then he thinks when the time is right that we'll accept Hillary's as well.

Still don't believe it? Keep listening. ALL HILLARY ALL the TIME. That's WHY we are being fed the Ed Schultz show.




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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:24 PM
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1. I've never listened to his show.
Guess I'm not missing much. I can get my blood boiling just wathing the whore MSM.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:26 PM
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2. I wrote Ed Schultz once and was appalled at his reply
that was full of unnecessary vulgarity and reeked of arrogance. I have not listened to him since.

If he keeps promoting LIEberman and Hillary, then more and more people will simply turn him off.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:28 PM
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3. Do you have any links for that?
"This is, as Ed likes to say: ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. That is where'd Ed's backing come from"

So he's paid for his views? Is that what you are saying? That he is in some way benefiting financially from Hillary and/or Lieberman?

"...one doesn't have to look far on the internet to read about how he may be tied to Hillary."

So how may he be tied? We like links, not assertions.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:52 PM
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7. ed shultz former rethuglican...
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:55 PM by flyarm
The Ed Schultz Show
(02/02/2005 ) Ed Schultz in Seattle Post-Intelligencer ... most interesting of the liberal talkers because he's a former Republican and is running against ...

http://www.bigeddieradio.com/EdInTheNews/more.asp?ID=15
The Ed Schultz Show
First up will be The Ed Schultz Show, which premieres on 15 stations, most in the Midwest ... The former Republican first came to North Dakota on a football ...

http://www.bigeddieradio.com/EdInTheNews/more.asp?ID=24
Say Anything: Re-Thinking The Ed Schultz Show - North Dakota's ...
This is a man who considered running on the Republican ticket against Earl Pomeroy and who frequently had former Republican Governor Ed Schafer sit in as a ...

Ed Schultz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Schultz's "KFGO News and Views with Ed Schultz" radio show was very similar to ... Interestingly, Schultz pondered a run as a Republican for the US House ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Schultz
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:19 PM
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13. And...?
Its not some kind of secret that he used to be a republican...he's said it on the air many times.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:29 PM
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17. AND???????? I POSTED YOU DETERMINE WHAT YOU WANT
many do not know he was republican...i did not post an opinion only links to the fact that he was republican and that he almost ran for office as a republican..make you own choices..and determination..

i am not in the business of making decisions for you or anyone else...

and i did not post my opinion...thats my business..

fly
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:39 PM
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23. And what is that supposed to prove?
You posted that in response to someone asking for evidence that he is somehow paid for his views. So he used to be a republican...what exactly does that prove?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:53 PM
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28. it proves nothing...nothing at all..its a fact do you have problems
with facts being posted??

its a fact..simple as that..if you want to make something of it, take it up with someone else...

i posted a fact..nothing more and nothing less...

last time i looked, this was a board we help each other out with informing and facts...

i do not play with facts..i simply post them...

you take it anyway you want, but do not put words in my mouth, or do not look for creating an agenda.....where there is none...

i posted simply the facts..

you prove whatever you want..i will not prove a damn thing to you or anyone else..where i have nothing to prove...

i posted simply facts..

fly

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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:07 PM
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33. So...he asked for evidence
and you replied with a fact that had nothing whatsoever to do with the subject? Seems kind of strange.

This is a discussion board, you know...I simply was asking for you to elaborate, but if you want to get all crazy on me, that's fine too I guess.



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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:34 PM
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4. Don't listen to right wing radio kids.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:35 PM
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5. I try to listen every day.
I know where he's coming from and I can disagree with him without bashing him on DU. I disagree with all of the hosts on progressive radio at about the same rate (except for maybe Thom). It is a popular thing to bash certain people here - I guess that's why I'll never be a good rah-rah person - I choose not to participate. If he is supporting Lieberman, then I disagree with him - but I'm not going to stop listening to him based on that.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:47 PM
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6. Ed Schultz....is a mixed bag.
He's part republican, part Dem. Don't forget, he was a conservative talk show host for what? 20 years? That's a little hard to erase....

In Sweden, they have an old saying, "You can wash the leopard, but his spots won't come out".

I'm not sure if Ed even knows where he stands on a lot of these issues. He's like a Grab Bag from both parties. He takes a few here, a few there....and what do you have?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:20 PM
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8. The only good thing about Ed Schultz
is that he may be able to convince some republicans to vote democrat because they relate to him.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:31 PM
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9. And also some Democrats who have been voting Republican.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:40 PM
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24. Absolutely
We need all the votes we can get.
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:46 PM
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26. And no one is going switch from Democrat to Republican because of him!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:58 PM
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29. I don't listen to him anymore
But when I used to, he would always get these callers who are either very military or rural and tell him that he is the only reason they ever vote democrat.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:34 PM
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10. Let's do some math
Rush Limbaugh is 10 times worse than Bill O'Reilly.
Ed Schultz is 1,000 times better than Bill O'Reilly.
Jerry Doyle is 1/2 as bad as Rush Limbaugh.
Randy Rhodes is 100 times as good as Ed Schultz.
Stephanie Miller is 1,000 times better than Ed Schultz.
Rachael Maddow is 999 times better than Ed Schultz.
Jerry Springer is 1/2 as good as Stephanie Miller.

So, obviously the answer is to give Margaret Cho her own radio show, replacing Ed Schultz.

It's simple algebra.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:27 PM
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15. Brainily on target. Good show! nt
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:29 PM
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16. and thom hartmann is infinitely better than all of them
as is ms. garofalo
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:39 PM
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22. I agree..
... that Hartmann is the brightest jewel in the modest left-radio crown.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:46 PM
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27. MIKE MALLOY!!!
MIKE MALLOY!!!

MIKE MALLOY!

MIKE MALLOY!

I have never listened to Ed Schultz, but I gained a good impression of him due to some of the posts that I read on DU.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:38 PM
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21. Yep..
.... around here, the perfect is not only the enemy of the good, it's a screaming, mischaracterizing, shit-flinging banshee enemy of the good.

Folks, like Ed or not, radio talk like his show is a lot more likely to open minds than say Mike Malloy, who I love but face it the center is going to hate.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:35 PM
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11. Ed is DLC all the way
Not a liberal by any means, but not a conservative either

I don't like him
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:38 PM
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20. I've often wondered why he gets so many top of the line guests in the
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:40 PM by higher class
Dem Party. I think DLC may be the answer. Schultz is not Air America, but can be heard on some of the same stations that carry some of the Air American hosts?

If he is getting better guests than Air America - I'm ticked.

He's not my favorite because of the yelling and there are as many egotistical 'I's' as Imus. He is so hot on himself. There is way too much politics to learn about - I'm not interested in all the fishing, sports, and stuff.

But, if he stands up better than the DLC representatives when appearing on network propaganda shows, than we've got to keep him as long as he doesn't pull a 'Leiberman' on all of us.

I JUST HOPE THERE IS NO THIRD PARTY FORMING - or is it four with the splits in the Republican Party. Just so we don't have a Nader style deflation by Novmeber.

I'm amazed that so many people run in the center of nowhere.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:08 PM
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12. I like listening to Ed Schultz, but he's not my political guru
He has a mix of callers phoning in, and I enjoy listening to their viewpoints. Ed can get egotistical sometimes, but overall his show is very good. But am I an "Ed Head"? No.

It's the same thing with Al Franken, Mike Malloy and Sam Sedar. Randi Rhodes is great - she really does her homework. However, none of these commentators has ever worked in public service in D.C. in the Federal Government, nor have they done time at The White House and Capitol Hill, so they can only offer an opinion.

(The same thing goes for those blowhards on the right - the only time Limbaugh comes here is to stuff his face at some dinner, or to get his marching orders from the GOP cabal.)

BTW, I was listening to Ed's show on June 7th when he was discussing the Bilbray/Busby race. He mentioned something about Congressional and Senate staffers flying out to California to phone bank for Bilbray. Here's the E-mail I sent to Ed:
********************************************************************
Subject: CA-50: Boots on the Ground
Date: 6/7/2006
To: ed@edschultzshow.com

Ed, did I hear you say that House and Senate staffers were in CA-50 yesterday working on Bilbray's campaign? If so, they're in violation of the Hatch Act, and should be punished accordingly.

The Hatch Act specifically states that Federal employees cannot:

1. Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election

2. Solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency

3. Solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)

4. Be candidates for public office in partisan elections

5. Engage in political activity while:
a. on duty

b. In a government office
c. Wearing an official uniform
d. Using a government vehicle
e. Wear partisan political buttons on duty

Link to the Hatch Act:
http://www.osc.gov/ha_fed.htm

Congress is in session. Why were these Congressional staffers working on a campaign?

Love your show!






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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:04 PM
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30. Does the Hatch act apply to Congressional/Senate staffers?
Somehow I doubt it given that many staffers work on campaigns.

I think it is illegal to use the office to campaign directly though(ie: use stationary, funds etc)
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:35 PM
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32. In my over twenty-one years of public service in the USG, it's always been
my understanding that the Hatch Act is applicable to everyone who works for the Federal Government, with the exception of political appointees.

Congressional and Senate staffers are not appointed by the President. Therefore, they are subject to the Hatch Act.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:58 AM
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37. Thanks for the info (nt)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:23 PM
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14. So basically you're saying that if someone support Lieberman ...
...he/she is a bad democrat

:eyes:

That's just messed up! Schultz, for whatever reason out there, has every right to back Lieberman - so does any other democrat out there. We may disagree with that choice but isn't that what democracy is all about?
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:43 PM
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25. I support Ned Lamont and I like Ed Shultz, and my brain has not exploded!
So Ed Shultz supports Lieberman, what's the big deal? According to the last poll, so did half of the democrats in CT. I don't agree with his position on Lieberman, but guess what, he doesn't agree with mine either. We're in the same party and we don't agree on something. Great! Now let's find something useful to rant about instead of devouring our own.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:22 PM
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31. Well perhaps yours hasn't
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case here most times
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:32 PM
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18. Ed is Republican Lite like Lieberman.
He is an admitted ex-Republican who didn't like the direction the party was taking like many ex-Republicans. I wish they would work on kicking the neo-cons and Christian dominionists out of their party and leave ours alone. I believe this is why we have a DLC wing in our party today and they are diluting what liberal stands for. This is why people believe there is no difference between the parties. Well, if they are dominated by conservatives, that's true.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:34 PM
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19. Just ask Randi Rhodes why Ed whores for the DLC. She'll tell ya.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:42 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Here's the gist of it: Randi and Ed were invited to a meeting at a BIG WHIG Democrat's home in NY. She said there was a house full of BIG NAME Dems at this meeting. They offered her and Ed big bucks to speak for the Dem/DLC party on the radio. Randi wanted to be free to say anything she wanted, good or bad, about the party so she said NO and turned down the deal, Ed ran with it. He IS speaking for the DLC wing of the party and getting paid to do so. He's a whore.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:10 PM
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34. Who were the people pledging money for Randi and then gave it to Schultz?
I think they may be the same people who support Lieberman.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:16 PM
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35. Is Ed Schultz a vivacious reader of books, is he well read...My guess is
No.

Like most moderates they depend on headlines, guests, some Internet, passages from a few books and a few other sources they seem to "trust"...

But they don't read many books...I think Ed would rather be fishing than reading some of the fine political books that are necessary to jump past that disgusting, middle of the road, no ideology of their own, do just enough of what other people want and say, fence sitting fucking moderates...who would even actually vote for a republican if enough money by the pug was spend to convince them they were the better man...

Hence, no strong ideology.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:55 PM
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36. Ed Schultz reaches an audience most liberals wouldn't...
so I am grateful for whatever he can do. Better him than limpballs or insanity.
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